Today's Team Meeting
Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis
Today's Team Meeting
- europa
- RealGM
- Posts: 44,919
- And1: 471
- Joined: Jun 25, 2005
- Location: Right Behind You
Today's Team Meeting
I've gotten some details about today's meeting. I'm still in the midst of finding out what I can and cannot post but in general terms let's just say it apparently wasn't very productive and it probably only served to make an angry and divided locker room more angry and divided.
From what I've been told, there are A LOT of personal conflicts going on right now and some of them seemed to have come to a head in the meeting today. One of the few things the players all seemed to agree upon is nobody liked hearing Krystkowiak throw them all under the bus after last night's game. So everyone was apparently quite anxious for today's team meeting but nothing good appeared to have come from it and from the sounds of it nothing was solved. Not by a longshot.
As xTitan posted in another thread, Kohl is influencing (or trying to influence) who gets playing time but he isn't being entirely successful. From the sounds of it, Krystkowiak is losing this team rather quickly and after today he may have lost it for good.
I'll post more if I can but the bottom line here is things appear to be getting real real ugly. I've run out of adjectives to describe what an utter mess this team is. I apologize for not providing clearer details but until I get the OK on what I can or cannot post I didn't want to get into too many specifics. But I wanted to at least provide a general overview of how a bad situation appears to only be getting worse.
From what I've been told, there are A LOT of personal conflicts going on right now and some of them seemed to have come to a head in the meeting today. One of the few things the players all seemed to agree upon is nobody liked hearing Krystkowiak throw them all under the bus after last night's game. So everyone was apparently quite anxious for today's team meeting but nothing good appeared to have come from it and from the sounds of it nothing was solved. Not by a longshot.
As xTitan posted in another thread, Kohl is influencing (or trying to influence) who gets playing time but he isn't being entirely successful. From the sounds of it, Krystkowiak is losing this team rather quickly and after today he may have lost it for good.
I'll post more if I can but the bottom line here is things appear to be getting real real ugly. I've run out of adjectives to describe what an utter mess this team is. I apologize for not providing clearer details but until I get the OK on what I can or cannot post I didn't want to get into too many specifics. But I wanted to at least provide a general overview of how a bad situation appears to only be getting worse.
Nothing will not break me.
- mcfromage
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,816
- And1: 840
- Joined: May 03, 2007
- Location: California
Wow, thanks for the info - great post. Obviously we'd all love to hear some more specifics and await your further word.
Regardless of the outcome I find this news encouraging as it indicates a wide dissatisfaction with the current status quo and will hopefully lead to changes of some kind or another.
Regardless of the outcome I find this news encouraging as it indicates a wide dissatisfaction with the current status quo and will hopefully lead to changes of some kind or another.
- Durbanfish4
- Sophomore
- Posts: 201
- And1: 0
- Joined: Oct 02, 2007
- Location: Oconomowoc/Milwaukee
- europa
- RealGM
- Posts: 44,919
- And1: 471
- Joined: Jun 25, 2005
- Location: Right Behind You
A few additional items of note:
1. Another thing the players seem unified on is their befuddlement over how Krystkowiak runs the team, especially with regard to his rotations. Plenty of guys are unhappy about that, saying they don't think playing time is being given out appropriately, nobody knows their roles and his in-game adjustments leave a lot to be desired.
2. Krystkowiak apparently started the meeting by trying to get everyone to fill out a piece of paper that equated the team to being in a war. He wanted to know if the players were with one another in the fox hole, out on their own or conspiring with the enemy. I was told the players were stunned by this approach and nobody filled anything out. Things pretty much went downhill from there.
3. Based on what I was told, Redd sounds absolutely depressed about the state of the team.
4. Bogut apparently tried to step up and take charge during the meeting but he was mocked at one point by Mo for being on a rookie contract and having no clout and so he should sit down and shut the hell up. He didn't say much, if anything, after that.
5. Let's just say the attitude in the locker room toward Mo isn't all that warm and fuzzy based on what I was told.
Again, there are apparently plenty of personal conflicts going on. One of the biggest reactions I had to the info I was given was I'm starting to fear that Bogut may not be with this team beyond his rookie deal. If he's being openly mocked in a team meeting, what possible reason would he have to stay?
1. Another thing the players seem unified on is their befuddlement over how Krystkowiak runs the team, especially with regard to his rotations. Plenty of guys are unhappy about that, saying they don't think playing time is being given out appropriately, nobody knows their roles and his in-game adjustments leave a lot to be desired.
2. Krystkowiak apparently started the meeting by trying to get everyone to fill out a piece of paper that equated the team to being in a war. He wanted to know if the players were with one another in the fox hole, out on their own or conspiring with the enemy. I was told the players were stunned by this approach and nobody filled anything out. Things pretty much went downhill from there.
3. Based on what I was told, Redd sounds absolutely depressed about the state of the team.
4. Bogut apparently tried to step up and take charge during the meeting but he was mocked at one point by Mo for being on a rookie contract and having no clout and so he should sit down and shut the hell up. He didn't say much, if anything, after that.
5. Let's just say the attitude in the locker room toward Mo isn't all that warm and fuzzy based on what I was told.
Again, there are apparently plenty of personal conflicts going on. One of the biggest reactions I had to the info I was given was I'm starting to fear that Bogut may not be with this team beyond his rookie deal. If he's being openly mocked in a team meeting, what possible reason would he have to stay?
Nothing will not break me.
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,831
- And1: 2
- Joined: Mar 17, 2006
- Location: AZ
europa wrote:A few additional items of note:
1. Another thing the players seem unified on is their befuddlement over how Krystkowiak runs the team, especially with regard to his rotations. Plenty of guys are unhappy about that, saying they don't think playing time is being given out appropriately, nobody knows their roles and his in-game adjustments leave a lot to be desired.
2. Krystkowiak apparently started the meeting by trying to get everyone to fill out a piece of paper that equated the team to being in a war. He wanted to know if the players were with one another in the fox hole, out on their own or conspiring with the enemy. [b]I was told the players were stunned by this approach and nobody filled anything out.[/b] Things pretty much went downhill from there.
3. Based on what I was told, Redd sounds absolutely depressed about the state of the team.
4. Bogut apparently tried to step up and take charge during the meeting but he was mocked at one point by Mo for being on a rookie contract and having no clout and so he should sit down and shut the hell up. He didn't say much, if anything, after that.
5. Let's just say the attitude in the locker room toward Mo isn't all that warm and fuzzy based on what I was told.
Again, there are apparently plenty of personal conflicts going on. One of the biggest reactions I had to the info I was given was I'm starting to fear that Bogut may not be with this team beyond his rookie deal. If he's being openly mocked in a team meeting, what possible reason would he have to stay?
That made me laugh.
- DH34Phan
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 5,627
- And1: 113
- Joined: Jun 30, 2005
- Contact:
europa wrote:3. Based on what I was told, Redd sounds absolutely depressed about the state of the team.
4. Bogut apparently tried to step up and take charge during the meeting but he was mocked at one point by Mo for being on a rookie contract and having no clout and so he should sit down and shut the hell up. He didn't say much, if anything, after that.
5. Let's just say the attitude in the locker room toward Mo isn't all that warm and fuzzy based on what I was told.
AKA Michael is the good guy, Mo is the bad guy. europa post copyright 2005-2008.
- paulpressey25
- Senior Mod - Bucks
- Posts: 61,050
- And1: 26,292
- Joined: Oct 27, 2002
europa wrote:Bogut apparently tried to step up and take charge during the meeting but he was mocked at one point by Mo for being on a rookie contract and having no clout and so he should sit down and shut the hell up.
......Let's just say the attitude in the locker room toward Mo isn't all that warm and fuzzy based on what I was told.
This whole team is about getting "mine" so I can see the resentment now switching focus from Redd to Mo since Mo has been the shooter the last three games. That said, I'm not sure who can shoot consistently. Just as the Redd guys said last year Redd needed to shoot because no one else could, I'm thinking right now Mo needs to shoot because other stuff isn't working.
With the mess this team has, what I'm trying to figure out is whether this team does have more talent than thought but that Larry K. is just a disaster as coach......and that a new coach has to be a priority as well.
- Magic 32
- Banned User
- Posts: 69
- And1: 0
- Joined: Feb 10, 2008
When team meetings are called last minute you know things are getting bad! All this revolves around one person, and everyone has their ideas who it may be. But we will find out soon enough because the deadline is coming. Anyone on this team can get traded at this point. Even Redd!
Thanks for the update!
Thanks for the update!
- europa
- RealGM
- Posts: 44,919
- And1: 471
- Joined: Jun 25, 2005
- Location: Right Behind You
DH34Phan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
AKA Michael is the good guy, Mo is the bad guy. europa post copyright 2005-2008.
I have no reason to make any of this up. I'm sorry if it doesn't fit with your preconceived beliefs about this team.
This whole team is about getting "mine" so I can see the resentment now switching focus from Redd to Mo since Mo has been the shooter the last three games.
I've been told quite a bit about that but apparently I'm just a MoHater so I suppose I'll just keep that to myself for the time being.
Nothing will not break me.
-
- Ballboy
- Posts: 38
- And1: 0
- Joined: Apr 07, 2007
- Location: WI