Clips & Suns?

Stix · Post #1 » by **Stix** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:29 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2165~2166~2167~660~1706~440~497~847&teams=12~12~12~12~21~21~21~21&te=&cash=

opinions?

jlove_26 · Post #2 » by **jlove_26** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:10 pm

As a Suns fan, I'd love that trade. However, I don't see any desire or need from the Clips to take on 4 bench players (albeit one of them being a great 6th man) for 3 of their starters and a bench player.

ecuhus1981 · Post #3 » by **ecuhus1981** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:14 pm

You'de have to attach the ATL 1st for LAC to think about it, but it's not horrible...

miruss2001 · Post #4 » by **miruss2001** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:43 pm

As a suns fan you like this? Really? My goodness, you must think highly of Magettee's ability to stay healthy to give up a package involving Diaw and Barbossa. I think its utter madness for the Suns to entertain this.

Post #5 » by **rsavaj** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:57 pm

Giving up Barbosa hurts a LOT, but the following lineup is interesting:

Nash
Bell
Hill
Marion
Amare

Bench:
PG:Dickau/Knight/Strawberry
SF: Maggette/Tucker
PF: Thomas(The Suns played him at the 4 sometimes in 05-06)
C: Skinner/Marks

That potentially makes the Suns 9 deep....Maggette would be excellent as a scorer off the bench, TT did well here...I kinda like this.

ecuhus1981 · Post #6 » by **ecuhus1981** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:03 pm

miruss2001 wrote:As a suns fan you like this? Really? My goodness, you must think highly of Magettee's ability to score efficiently and get to the FT line better than any Sun to give up a package involving a contract dump of Diaw and Barbossa. I think its a very sound idea, both financially and on-court for the Suns to entertain this.

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Post #7 » by **rsavaj** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:10 pm

ecuhus1981 wrote:
miruss2001 wrote:As a suns fan you like this? Really? My goodness, you must think highly of Magettee's ability to score efficiently and get to the FT line better than any Sun not named Amare to give up a package involving a contract dump of Diaw. I think its a very sound idea, both financially and on-court for the Suns to entertain this.

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In reality, I think the Suns would hesitate the most on this move simply because of the fact that Barbosa has been amazing for them and they may still hold out hope on Diaw regaining form....he's been aggressive lately(which has resulted in him taking crap shots and missing them, but oh well).

How are Maggette and Thomas doing this year? I haven't watched them...

Post #8 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:15 pm

i doubt the clips would be all that eager to commit big money to diaw when they frontcourt is set for years (thornton/brand/kaman)

ecuhus1981 · Post #9 » by **ecuhus1981** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 6:24 pm

rsavaj wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

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In reality, I think the Suns would hesitate the most on this move simply because of the fact that Barbosa has been amazing for them and they may still hold out hope on Diaw regaining form....he's been aggressive lately(which has resulted in him taking crap shots and missing them, but oh well).

How are Maggette and Thomas doing this year? I haven't watched them...

Nice job shooting from the hip, but you're dead wrong. Maggette has taken 224 FT attempts in 25 games, good for 9 per contest. Stoudemire has 203 attempts from the charity stripe to his credit this year, in 28 games. That's just over 7 per game. Corey also sinks 81% of his FTs, to STAT's 75%. Soooooooo.... yeah, you're dead wrong.

Thomas has been hitting his 3's, and Maggette is having as good a year as Barbosa. Plus you dump Banks' contract for the cheap and more efficient Knight AND Dickau?! That's why I say the ATL 1st is necessary for LAC to entertain this offer.

sipclip · Post #10 » by **sipclip** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 7:58 pm

As a clip fan I would do this trade. The clips need to shake things up and getting a possible go to scorer like Barbosa is huge. I also think Diaw would be the perfect compliment to Kaman and Brand to make a pretty damn good 3 man rotation.

Post #11 » by **rsavaj** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:20 pm

Is Maggette an expiring? Because if there's the risk of him leaving after this year, I don't think the Suns do this trade and give up Barbosa in the process.

sipclip · Post #12 » by **sipclip** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 8:23 pm

Maggette can opt out after the season but I don't think he would want to leave the suns system. Maggs has been on losing teams his entire career and to finally have a chance to win games and play with a great pg goes a long way to re-signing him.

pidi · Post #13 » by **pidi** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 9:25 pm

of course the loss of barbosa hurts a lot, but if we can dump banks and disco-doris i

Post #14 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 9:30 pm

sipclip wrote:As a clip fan I would do this trade. The clips need to shake things up and getting a possible go to scorer like Barbosa is huge. I also think Diaw would be the perfect compliment to Kaman and Brand to make a pretty damn good 3 man rotation.

and incredibly expensive.

livingston/barbosa/thornton/brand/kaman is one heck of a lineup though. liv can guard sg's so he's a nice fit with barbosa.

Stix · Post #15 » by **Stix** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:32 pm

dcash4 wrote:i doubt the clips would be all that eager to commit big money to diaw when they frontcourt is set for years (thornton/brand/kaman)

this gives all reason for the Clips to sign Diaw as a solid Back-up big. He can also play multiple positions and is a starter on most other teams.

livingston2kaman · Post #16 » by **livingston2kaman** » Thu Jan 3, 2008 11:41 pm

It's not horrible, but it's not great either.

Adding the ATL pick would make it happen if it ever got discussed.