NBA Finals: Boston vs. LA Lakers - Series BOS leads (2-0)

[LakerFanMan]

I am also revoking Kobe's first team defense for letting Ray Allen light him up.

Kobe barely played Ray Allen tonight. He was playing Rondo and then House most of the game. Were you watching?

[Geddy]

As for Duncan, the Spurs have enough offensive firepower where they don't need him to score 30 every night to win. At least I've never seen him shying away from taking big shots or refusing to play in a way that will help his team win. Duncan would be the opposite of KG on that front...

Pierce? Allen?

I think this guy is talking about a different KG then the one the rest of us know. Only explanation i can come up with for his line of reasoning.

[TommyPoints]

I am also revoking Kobe's first team defense for letting Ray Allen light him up.

Nah, you can't blame Kobe. The only bad thing I'll say about Kobe tonight is he whines way too much.

[tracey_nice]

I am also revoking Kobe's first team defense for letting Ray Allen light him up.

Did you watch the game?

[Jonathan Watters]

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Pierce? Allen?

I think this guy is talking about a different KG then the one the rest of us know. Only explanation i can come up with for his line of reasoning.

Both jump shooting mediocre athletes at the tail end of very good careers. Boston obviously needs a guy who can step in and create some post offense, not a third jumpshooter. Kind of like what San Antonio has with Duncan....

[Don Draper]

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Kobe barely played Ray Allen tonight. He was playing Rondo and then House most of the game. Were you watching?

When Ray Allen started going nuts it was Kobe

[RocketPower23]

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Adding onto your points about Duncan and McGrady.

McGrady would be the absolute epitome of what I am talking about. Even worse, actually. The guy does have back issues, but he kills his teams by refusing to take the ball to the basket. I can't stand him for that reason. It is what keeps Mcgrady from being great.

As for Duncan, the Spurs have enough offensive firepower where they don't need him to score 30 every night to win. At least I've never seen him shying away from taking big shots or refusing to play in a way that will help his team win. Duncan would be the opposite of KG on that front...

I'll have to call you out on T-Mac. The role on his team is to play facilitate the offense, really because no-one else can set it up. It's similar to Kobe's role on the Shaq led Laker teams (he still does actually). He is being forced to go on the perimeter, for the better of the TEAM, he's helping other players excel instead of just going to the post and not setting up the offense. If he had somebody to start up the offense, I can see him operating in the post all the time and taking it to the basket, but until that happens, he won't be as affective. As for KG, while you are defiantly right on some points, calling him selfish is quiet right.

[tracey_nice]

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When Ray Allen started going nuts it was Kobe

huh? no!

[eatyourchildren]

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When Ray Allen started going nuts it was Kobe

Um, Ray Allen went nuts on Kobe to the tune of 1 3 pt'er and 1 midrange jumper off a switch.
What game were you watching?

[Don Draper]

I saw him get burned on screens at least 3 times. Maybe he switched or whatever but he was guarding Allen. Van Gundy even pointed it out one of the times.

[Don Draper]

Rondo also gave him buckets in the first quarter. I don't care if he backign off him. Thats his man. You dont get 1st team defense for roaming.

[Jonathan Watters]

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I'll have to call you out on T-Mac. The role on his team is to play facilitate the offense, really because no-one else can set it up. It's similar to Kobe's role on the Shaq led Laker teams (he still does actually). He is being forced to go on the perimeter, for the better of the TEAM, he's helping other players excel instead of just going to the post and not setting up the offense. If he had somebody to start up the offense, I can see him operating in the post all the time and taking it to the basket, but until that happens, he won't be as affective. As for KG, while you are defiantly right on some points, calling him selfish is quiet right.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying TMac should be in the post. That's not true. But he should be getting by his man and to the rim for easy buckets. He far, far, far too often dribbles out the shot clock and throws up a low percentage fadeaway.

And try not to focus on the "selfish" comment. That was only a minor portion of what I was saying. The disconnect between KG's on-court "warrior" persona and his very un-"warriorlike" offensive game is what I was bringing to light.

It is selfish, yes, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say KG is overall a seflish player because of it. Many aspects of his game are quite unselfish.

But his unwillingness to play near the basket at the expense of his team because he fancies himself as a 7-foot Michael Jordan? This is without a doubt a very selfish aspect of his game...

[Kobay]

He should have done better job telling shasha that he was going to cover Pierce without switch which probably was one of the stupid defnsive mistakes he made tonight. Rest were just moving screen by KG taking him off Allen but Gasol or Lamar's responsibility to take care of buisness there, let allen shoot a wide open three or close in and have him pass it to perkins or KG and foul them or hope help defnse is back there.

[dockingsched]

Rondo also gave him buckets in the first quarter. I don't care if he backign off him. Thats his man. You dont get 1st team defense for roaming.

do u understand the concept of a defensive strategy? a defensive game plan? letting a sucky shooter shoot?

[eatyourchildren]

Rondo also gave him buckets in the first quarter. I don't care if he backign off him. Thats his man. You dont get 1st team defense for roaming.

Whoa! Rondo and Ray Allen giving Kobe buckets! Really? How many points did that total, and how many points did he get back with his roaming defense which allowed him to harass KG and Pierce?

There's a reason the Celtics scored less today than in the other two games, and it's not because Odom suddenly turned into a shut down defender

[Don Draper]

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do u understand the concept of a defensive strategy? a defensive game plan? letting a sucky shooter shoot?

That is fine but my point is this:

Kobe Bryant should not be a 1st team defender because a) he doesn't guard the best perimeter player on the other team b) he doesn't consistently play tenacious D

You shouldn't get lifetime achievement awards for 1st team defense.

[Curmudgeon]

Look we all know that Garnett shoots too many jumpers and does not go down on the blocks nearly enough. And when he does post up, he shoots fallaway jumpers. It's a flaw in his game. Always has been. He's not Kevin McHale, and I wish he were.

But it's not because he fancies himself as the 7 ft Jordan.

[Buck You]

Ray Allen can't lead your team in scoring if you want to win an NBA finals game.

[Jonathan Watters]

Look we all know that Garnett shoots too many jumpers and does not go down on the blocks nearly enough. And when he does post up, he shoots fallaway jumpers. It's a flaw in his game. Always has been. He's not Kevin McHale, and I wish he were.

But it's not because he fancies himself as the 7 ft Jordan.

Care to expound on why, and what the meaningful difference would be?

And don't tell me its just not his game. Throughout his entire career he has shown the ability to play on the low block, on the rare chance he ever gets there. He's also shown the ability to drive on other bigs, but rarely attempts to take his man off the dribble.

[NO-KG-AI]

I wish I could see a 7' Michael Jordan