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wegotthabeet wrote:How are they tearing it down when they owe San Antonio two unprotected picks in 2025 & 2027 and an unprotected swap in 2026?

HMFFL wrote:

Jamaaliver wrote:We might actually end up in the lottery this year...

At this point we need to be in the lottery.
This team is pathetic.

Jamaaliver wrote:

wegotthabeet wrote:How are they tearing it down when they owe San Antonio two unprotected picks in 2025 & 2027 and an unprotected swap in 2026?

HMFFL wrote:

Jamaaliver wrote:We might actually end up in the lottery this year...

At this point we need to be in the lottery.
This team is pathetic.

I am perplexed...
At this point, what direction do we think Hawks should go in?

Push through and hope the team figures it out?
Bottom out for one last high draft pick?
Trade vets for a quicker turnaround?
Trade Trae?
Bring back Travis Schlenk?

Jamaaliver wrote:Just a reminder that young, inexperienced Landry Fields sold the farm in a trade that hasn't panned out and prevents us from doing a proper tear down...even if we wanted to.

And he was allowed to do so because our idiot owner and his son overruled the many senior executives who stood against the move.

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dms269 wrote:The Hawks are the laughing stock of pro sports in the city.

raleigh wrote:I'm really struggling to choose between posting an cheesy image about sunk costs and a YouTube link to Kenny Rogers singing "The Gambler."

Tough choices these days.

Should the Hawks Blow It Up?

Hawks fans, I can understand if you’re raging after reading my Spurs hypothetical. And if you scrolled past it, the TL;DR is: “The Spurs should try to wait to trade for Trae Young instead of trading for Dejounte Murray right now, because the Hawks are on the verge of imploding.”

Sorry, but that’s the reality of Atlanta’s situation: This is a franchise on a fast track toward a lot of big changes. I’m hesitant to say the Hawks should blow it up because after this year, the Hawks don’t have the rights to their own first-round picks until 2028. It’s unclear how strong of a market Trae would even have. Teams are hesitant to acquire Zach LaVine because of his enormous salary, and the same goes for Pascal Siakam, who will demand a massive contract this summer. Young is in the second year of a five-year, $215 million deal. Not many teams even need point guards. So what would the market really be: The Bulls, Lakers, Magic, Nets, or Wizards would enter the bidding. Maybe? But only San Antonio can send the Hawks back their own picks: firsts in 2025 and 2027 with the swap in 2026. That’d allow the Hawks to bottom out with their own draft picks in back-to-back draft classes featuring franchise-changing prospects (headlined by Cooper Flagg in 2025 and Cam Boozer and AJ Dybantsa in 2026). No other team can offer the Hawks the same luxury.

I wouldn’t expect Young and the Hawks to seek a trade ahead of next month’s deadline. It’s too soon. Young and Hawks head coach Quin Snyder get along great, and it’s not as if the team isn’t without any silver linings, with Johnson blossoming into a two-way force. The focus is on flipping Murray, accumulating assets, and seeing where they land—first following the deadline, and then in the draft. Young is dealing with a left calf contusion, so if the team keeps dropping games, maybe it’ll even decide to sit him to tank games to improve its lottery odds. The 2024 class lacks a no-brainer star, but a top pick would help grease a trade to bolster the team around Young. If Atlanta’s future doesn’t look promising soon, though, then the Hawks and Young may mutually decide it’s for the best to part ways.

Jamaaliver wrote:

Should the Hawks Blow It Up?

Hawks fans, I can understand if you’re raging after reading my Spurs hypothetical. And if you scrolled past it, the TL;DR is: “The Spurs should try to wait to trade for Trae Young instead of trading for Dejounte Murray right now, because the Hawks are on the verge of imploding.”

Sorry, but that’s the reality of Atlanta’s situation: This is a franchise on a fast track toward a lot of big changes. I’m hesitant to say the Hawks should blow it up because after this year, the Hawks don’t have the rights to their own first-round picks until 2028. It’s unclear how strong of a market Trae would even have. Teams are hesitant to acquire Zach LaVine because of his enormous salary, and the same goes for Pascal Siakam, who will demand a massive contract this summer. Young is in the second year of a five-year, $215 million deal. Not many teams even need point guards. So what would the market really be: The Bulls, Lakers, Magic, Nets, or Wizards would enter the bidding. Maybe? But only San Antonio can send the Hawks back their own picks: firsts in 2025 and 2027 with the swap in 2026. That’d allow the Hawks to bottom out with their own draft picks in back-to-back draft classes featuring franchise-changing prospects (headlined by Cooper Flagg in 2025 and Cam Boozer and AJ Dybantsa in 2026). No other team can offer the Hawks the same luxury.

I wouldn’t expect Young and the Hawks to seek a trade ahead of next month’s deadline. It’s too soon. Young and Hawks head coach Quin Snyder get along great, and it’s not as if the team isn’t without any silver linings, with Johnson blossoming into a two-way force. The focus is on flipping Murray, accumulating assets, and seeing where they land—first following the deadline, and then in the draft. Young is dealing with a left calf contusion, so if the team keeps dropping games, maybe it’ll even decide to sit him to tank games to improve its lottery odds. The 2024 class lacks a no-brainer star, but a top pick would help grease a trade to bolster the team around Young. If Atlanta’s future doesn’t look promising soon, though, then the Hawks and Young may mutually decide it’s for the best to part ways.

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dms269 wrote:

Jamaaliver wrote:Just a reminder that young, inexperienced Landry Fields sold the farm in a trade that hasn't panned out and prevents us from doing a proper tear down...even if we wanted to.

And he was allowed to do so because our idiot owner and his son overruled the many senior executives who stood against the move.

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I just wish we either had an owner who spends (Blank) or a front office who cooks (AA). The Hawks are the laughing stock of pro sports in the city.

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Jamaaliver wrote:At this point, I'm onboard with any number of directions the team can pursue.

But i have an observation.

The team should not trade Trae to SAS for our own draft picks AND then keep Dejounte in a bid to remain competitive.

Doing so would essentially just be trading Trae for middling picks in the 13-20 range. If we trade Trae for our own picks...it needs to be the precursor to a full on rebuild so we can be in this Cooper Flagg sweepstake.

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