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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:59 pm
by raleigh
Bigger question, would Quin Snyder even want to stick around for a rebuild?
The team's current record and future outlook are comparable to that of a rebuilding team. What's the difference?
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:00 pm
by raleigh
This getting the picks back talk is a real loser direction.
This team is losing now and has few legitimate assets. What's the difference?
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:06 pm
by Jamaaliver
raleigh wrote:Bigger question, would Quin Snyder even want to stick around for a rebuild?
The team's current record and future outlook are comparable to that of a rebuilding team. What's the difference?
I would respectfully disagree. Detroit and Charlotte have the outlook of a rebuilding team. Pistons win 2 in a row and it's cause to celebrate. Hornets win 3 in a row, and their fanbase is ecstatic. Ignoring the fact that both teams are 30-40 wins below .500.
With Trae and Quin onboard, the Hawk's baseline is reasonably a .500 team.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:12 pm
by jayu70
raleigh wrote:This getting the picks back talk is a real loser direction.
This team is losing now and has few legitimate assets. What's the difference?
Look at what's out there for some of these rumored deals....SAS has no reason to just offer us the picks back. They'll just build ANOTHER dynasty while we do what exactly? Try to hit on another star? While we still stuck and give them our top pick?
What the Spurs Could Offer in a Trade
There’s every indication the Spurs and Hawks will revisit the Trae Young trade talks at some point in the offseason.
The Spurs could build a trade package around Devonte’ Graham, Keldon Johnson, Cedi Osman and multiple first-round picks. They own three first-rounders in 2024 alone — their own, a protected 1-6 pick from the Raptors, and a 1-14 protected pick from the Hornets. 
If the Hawks do plan to hit the reset button, collecting a chest of draft picks could be the best path forward — a strategy that has worked wonders for franchises such as the Celtics and Thunder.
SAS understands our desperation and incompetence.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:07 pm
by raleigh
Detroit and Charlotte have the outlook of a rebuilding team
Detroit and Charlotte are tanking teams.
With Trae and Quin onboard, the Hawk's baseline is reasonably a .500 team.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:34 pm
by Jamaaliver
This seems like a decent framework to begin negotiations...
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:59 pm
by jayu70
Jamaaliver wrote:This seems like a decent framework to begin negotiations...
What does an extension for Ingram look like? He has 1 year left after this season.
Would we even need to include OO considering Ingram's pending FAcy?
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=murrade01&p1yrfrom=2024&p1yrto=2024&player_id2=ingrabr01&p2yrfrom=2024&p2yrto=2024
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:26 am
by Jamaaliver
Dude, if we could get an additional lottery pick + Jalen Green for Dejounte Murray, we'd have to jump on that, right?
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:50 am
by King Ken
Jamaaliver wrote:Dude, if we could get an additional lottery pick + Jalen Green for Dejounte Murray, we'd have to jump on that, right?
I would rather Amen Thompson. Would Jalen even start for Atlanta? Jalen has tremendous talent but he has severe issues like Smoove but doesn't have the defense to fall back on. I'll pass. I would love to trade Murray for a mid 1st this year and a wing that can shoot 3s and defend multiple positions with legit size.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:11 pm
by Jamaaliver
King Ken wrote:I would rather Amen Thompson. Would Jalen even start for Atlanta? Jalen has tremendous talent but he has severe issues like Smoove but doesn't have the defense to fall back on. I'll pass. I would love to trade Murray for a mid 1st this year and a wing that can shoot 3s and defend multiple positions with legit size.
Nah. The ideal approach for Jalen Green (right now) is using him as a microwave scorer off the bench. He could become Quin's new version of Jordan Clarkson. You rehab his value and get hm to play better defense, he'd become a tremendous trade asset down the line.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:54 pm
by King Ken
Jamaaliver wrote:King Ken wrote:I would rather Amen Thompson. Would Jalen even start for Atlanta? Jalen has tremendous talent but he has severe issues like Smoove but doesn't have the defense to fall back on. I'll pass. I would love to trade Murray for a mid 1st this year and a wing that can shoot 3s and defend multiple positions with legit size.
Nah. The ideal approach for Jalen Green (right now) is using him as a microwave scorer off the bench. He could become Quin's new version of Jordan Clarkson. You rehab his value and get hm to play better defense, he'd become a tremendous trade asset down the line.
Got it! He's been tremendous the last 7 days.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 7:37 pm
by tbhawksfan1
Jamaaliver wrote:Dude, if we could get an additional lottery pick + Jalen Green for Dejounte Murray, we'd have to jump on that, right?
This is a no brainer. YES
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:32 am
by Geaux_Hawks
Jamaaliver wrote:Dude, if we could get an additional lottery pick + Jalen Green for Dejounte Murray, we'd have to jump on that, right?
That kind of haul is a no brainer. Houston never considers it though.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:55 am
by King Ken
King Ken wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:King Ken wrote:I would rather Amen Thompson. Would Jalen even start for Atlanta? Jalen has tremendous talent but he has severe issues like Smoove but doesn't have the defense to fall back on. I'll pass. I would love to trade Murray for a mid 1st this year and a wing that can shoot 3s and defend multiple positions with legit size.
Nah. The ideal approach for Jalen Green (right now) is using him as a microwave scorer off the bench. He could become Quin's new version of Jordan Clarkson. You rehab his value and get hm to play better defense, he'd become a tremendous trade asset down the line.
Got it! He's been tremendous the last 7 days.
Green been a stud for over a month. He's going nowhere
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:43 pm
by HMFFL
Mikal Bridges
What else can we expect to receive from Brooklyn if we trade Trae Young to them?
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Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:49 am
by King Ken
Jalen Green is insane.
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:39 pm
by tbhawksfan1
King Ken wrote:Jalen Green is insane.
Good insane or bad insane?
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:58 am
by King Ken
tbhawksfan1 wrote:King Ken wrote:Jalen Green is insane.
Good insane or bad insane?
Good insane. Something just clicked for him
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:09 pm
by King Ken
Re: Atlanta Hawks Trade Proposal Thread -- Part IV
Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:05 pm
by Jamaaliver
Just curious: What would you guys reasonable expect in return for Bogdan/Capela?