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Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:44 pm
by Laimbeer
SVG compared Chet to Garnett for two way impact. Thoughts?

Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:59 pm
by MMyhre
Jalen Williams is very very exciting..

Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:05 pm
by The Master
Laimbeer wrote:SVG compared Chet to Garnett for two way impact. Thoughts?

Impact-wise? A long way to go.

Style-wise? Naah, different roles both defensively and offensively.

Potential-wise?

Hard to say, I don't think Holmgren will have similar defensive impact (he'll be great, but I don't think he can become a great-great 1v1 defender against centers with his frame and his rebounding is kind of questionable as well, his defensive instincts and shotblocking potential are obviously fantastic for such a skilled player), while his offensive game is hard to project. Dream case scenario? Ideally, I see Markkanen-type of scorer with better passing, DPOTY-level defense and perfect fit to the contemporary offense. That's peak AD-level of an impact (within elite environment, OKC will be lethal for years to come), but obviously it's a reach (and depends on Holmgren improving to the level of elite spot up shooter and great shotmaker, but I can imagine that happening, his 'starting point': shooting and feel for the game, is fantastic).

Right now, maybe Cavs' Larry Nance is a good comp if you want skilled shot-blocker providing vertical spacing/shooting depth with decent offensive skills and yet playing as an elite role player on offense, also, not a dominant rebounder. Impact-wise, they may be quite similar (~borderline allstars) - and it's a big compliment to Holmgren all things (first and foremost, age) considered. Visually, they're obviously far away from each other, but Chet is such an unicorn that it's hard to find a decent old comp. Nowadays, Porzingis is obviously a great comparison (both stylistically and impact-wise), but Chet's upside is much bigger than that.

Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:07 pm
by rk2023
The Master wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:SVG compared Chet to Garnett for two way impact. Thoughts?

Impact-wise? A long way to go.

Style-wise? Naah, different roles both defensively and offensively.

Potential-wise?

Hard to say, I don't think Holmgren will have similar defensive impact (he'll be great, but I don't think he can become a great-great 1v1 defender against centers with his frame and his rebounding is kind of questionable as well, his defensive instincts and shotblocking potential are obviously fantastic for such a skilled player), while his offensive game is hard to project. Dream case scenario? Ideally, I see Markkanen-type of scorer with better passing, DPOTY-level defense and perfect fit to the contemporary offense. That's peak AD-level of an impact (within elite environment, OKC will be lethal for years to come), but obviously it's a reach (and depends on Holmgren improving to the level of elite spot up shooter and great shotmaker, but I can imagine that happening, his 'starting point': shooting and feel for the game, is fantastic).

Right now, maybe Cavs' Larry Nance is a good comp if you want skilled shot-blocker providing vertical spacing/shooting depth with decent offensive skills and yet playing as an elite role player on offense, also, not a dominant rebounder. Impact-wise, they may be quite similar (~borderline allstars) - and it's a big compliment to Holmgren all things (first and foremost, age) considered. Visually, they're obviously far away from each other, but Chet is such an unicorn that it's hard to find a decent old comp. Nowadays, Porzingis is obviously a great comparison (both stylistically and impact-wise), but Chet's upside is much bigger than that.


Chet kind of reminds me of a modernized Dirk (the most specifically the 2001-04 version, pre Nash trade).

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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:52 am
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Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:46 am
by GSP
Chets been the best player in the series so far through 2 game

Whens the last rookie to be the best player in a series?

Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:54 am
by Colbinii
GSP wrote:Chets been the best player in the series so far through 2 game

Whens the last rookie to be the best player in a series?


Probably Tim Duncan.

I still want to see OKC play a team with size and perimeter talent, which New Orleans has neither.

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Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 12:53 am
by BmanInBigD
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Don't forget to include the 47 elbow push-offs! :lol:

Re: The Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Chet Holmgren Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 10:07 pm
by TroubleS0me
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Don't forget to include the 47 elbow push-offs! :lol:


yea he likes to do that alot.