Hali vs Brunson

[jtan08]

I just noticed the stats of Hali and Brunson in the ECSF. Everyone saying Brunson is the better player by far, but if you look on their stats, it says they are more or less on the same tier. In my personal opinion, Hali stats are slightly better. Brunson is a better scorer but on high volume and less efficient with lots of foul baiting but overall it seems Hali quietly outplay him in the series. And if you remove game 1 where Hali is passive for no reason, widens the statistical gap even further.


BRUNSON:
36.4 MPG
29.7 RPG
2.3 RPG
6.1 APG
0.9 SPG
46.1 FG%
31.6 3PT%
8.1 FTA

HALIBURTON:
33.6 MPG
21.3 RPG
4.3 RPG
7.0 APG
1.7 SPG
53.8 FG%
43.6 3PT%
1.4 FTA

[SweaterBae]

I just noticed the stats of Hali and Brunson in the ECSF. Everyone saying Brunson is the better player by far, but if you look on their stats, it says they are more or less on the same tier. In my personal opinion, Hali stats are slightly better. Brunson is a better scorer but on high volume and less efficient with lots of foul baiting but overall it seems Hali quietly outplay him in the series. And if you remove game 1 where Hali is passive for no reason, widens the statistical gap even further.


BRUNSON:
36.4 MPG
29.7 RPG
2.3 RPG
6.1 APG
0.9 SPG
46.1 FG%
31.6 3PT%
8.1 FTA

HALIBURTON:
33.6 MPG
21.3 RPG
4.3 RPG
7.0 APG
1.7 SPG
53.8 FG%
43.6 3PT%
1.4 FTA

They're in a similar tier.

[Maverick41]

If Brunson put up those Hali stats every game, the Knicks would have been swept. Those Hali stats are nothing special to start a thread for.

[DaGawd]

gotta be trolling with this thread

[srhcan]

I just noticed the stats of Hali and Brunson in the ECSF. Everyone saying Brunson is the better player by far, but if you look on their stats, it says they are more or less on the same tier. In my personal opinion, Hali stats are slightly better. Brunson is a better scorer but on high volume and less efficient with lots of foul baiting but overall it seems Hali quietly outplay him in the series. And if you remove game 1 where Hali is passive for no reason, widens the statistical gap even further.


BRUNSON:
36.4 MPG
29.7 RPG
2.3 RPG
6.1 APG
0.9 SPG
46.1 FG%
31.6 3PT%
8.1 FTA

HALIBURTON:
33.6 MPG
21.3 RPG
4.3 RPG
7.0 APG
1.7 SPG
53.8 FG%
43.6 3PT%
1.4 FTA

Hali is a kid compared to Brunson.

[Rainwater]

If Brunson put up those Hali stats every game, the Knicks would have been swept. Those Hali stats are nothing special to start a thread for.

Yeah, context really matters in this case.

[Edrees]

Brunsens averages brought down by game 7 injury too. Then again maybe Hb never recovered fully

[robbie84]

Haliburton's injuries derailed his season. He was in the MVP race for a while. Brunson was the better player this year simply because he did it for so long. If Hali played the way he did in the playoffs and the start of the regular season before his injuries, he'd be in the race too. Hopefully both are healthy next year, all year- and we see a real battle of the guards.

[jtan08]

If Brunson put up those Hali stats every game, the Knicks would have been swept. Those Hali stats are nothing special to start a thread for.

I'm just saying that Brunson is not far better player compared to Hali given the stats and outcome of the series. Wherein everyone are praising Brunson and downplaying Hali.

[jtan08]

I just noticed the stats of Hali and Brunson in the ECSF. Everyone saying Brunson is the better player by far, but if you look on their stats, it says they are more or less on the same tier. In my personal opinion, Hali stats are slightly better. Brunson is a better scorer but on high volume and less efficient with lots of foul baiting but overall it seems Hali quietly outplay him in the series. And if you remove game 1 where Hali is passive for no reason, widens the statistical gap even further.


BRUNSON:
36.4 MPG
29.7 RPG
2.3 RPG
6.1 APG
0.9 SPG
46.1 FG%
31.6 3PT%
8.1 FTA

HALIBURTON:
33.6 MPG
21.3 RPG
4.3 RPG
7.0 APG
1.7 SPG
53.8 FG%
43.6 3PT%
1.4 FTA

Hali is a kid compared to Brunson.

A kid who outplayed and beat the Man Brunson, okay injury excuses again.

[DaGawd]

If Brunson put up those Hali stats every game, the Knicks would have been swept. Those Hali stats are nothing special to start a thread for.

I'm just saying that Brunson is not far better player compared to Hali given the stats and outcome of the series. Wherein everyone are praising Brunson and downplaying Hali.

y’all barely beat a severely injured knicks team… wierd flex

[jtan08]

Brunsens averages brought down by game 7 injury too. Then again maybe Hb never recovered fully

I don't think so, Brunson played 29mins compared to 33mins of Hali in game7, it is not big of a difference. Probably Brunson will add some counting stats but really not the efficiency. And if you see their mins average on the whole series, Brunson still playing more mins (36 vs 33) compared to Hali.

[jtan08]

gotta be trolling with this thread

I'm just stating the fact because everyone is praising Brunson while downplaying the impact of Hali. I know most of us looks on the PPG, I understand.

[jtan08]

If Brunson put up those Hali stats every game, the Knicks would have been swept. Those Hali stats are nothing special to start a thread for.

I'm just saying that Brunson is not far better player compared to Hali given the stats and outcome of the series. Wherein everyone are praising Brunson and downplaying Hali.

y’all barely beat a severely injured knicks team… wierd flex

I'm just stating the stats of Hali vs Brunson, injury excuses again.

[jtan08]

Haliburton's injuries derailed his season. He was in the MVP race for a while. Brunson was the better player this year simply because he did it for so long. If Hali played the way he did in the playoffs and the start of the regular season before his injuries, he'd be in the race too. Hopefully both are healthy next year, all year- and we see a real battle of the guards.

Yes, hopefully we can see both fully healthy next season. I think the 1st half performance of Hali show some glimpse of his ceiling/potential.

[Nuntius]

If Brunson put up those Hali stats every game, the Knicks would have been swept. Those Hali stats are nothing special to start a thread for.

I'm just saying that Brunson is not far better player compared to Hali given the stats and outcome of the series. Wherein everyone are praising Brunson and downplaying Hali.

Bad thread, in my opinion, my man. Brunson had a better series than Hali did. And Maverick41 is right, without Brunson scoring over 40 points in two of New York's wins, the series wouldn't have gone 7. And, yes, his series stats do take a hit from playing less than 30 minutes in game 7 due to breaking his hand.

I do agree that a lot of the criticism that Hali received after game 1 was inaccurate and that people do tend to run with false narratives once they are formed but ask Hali and he'll tell you himself that he should have done more in that game 1.

At the end of the day, the two players are completely different. Brunson is a score-first combo guard. Hali is a pass-first PG. Brunson uses his scoring threat to unlock his passing, Hali uses his passing threat to unlock his scoring. Overall, the two players are in the same tier but Brunson was better in this particular series.

And you know what? That's to be expected. Brunson is 3 and a half years older than Hali. He has made deep playoff runs before, going to the Conference Finals with the Mavs two years ago. Hali, on the other hand, had not made the playoffs before this year. This is his first playoff run. So, yeah, it's not a shock that an older and more experienced player had a better series than him. It's sort of expected.

But Brunson did have a better series than Hali. There's no point in denying this.

[bronxknicksfan1]

I just noticed the stats of Hali and Brunson in the ECSF. Everyone saying Brunson is the better player by far, but if you look on their stats, it says they are more or less on the same tier. In my personal opinion, Hali stats are slightly better. Brunson is a better scorer but on high volume and less efficient with lots of foul baiting but overall it seems Hali quietly outplay him in the series. And if you remove game 1 where Hali is passive for no reason, widens the statistical gap even further.


BRUNSON:
36.4 MPG
29.7 RPG
2.3 RPG
6.1 APG
0.9 SPG
46.1 FG%
31.6 3PT%
8.1 FTA

HALIBURTON:
33.6 MPG
21.3 RPG
4.3 RPG
7.0 APG
1.7 SPG
53.8 FG%
43.6 3PT%
1.4 FTA

Troll threads today?

Add some context. Haliburton had nowhere close to the offensive responsibility Brunson had nor did he receive the same amount of attention from the Knicks defense. We all know how this series ends if even just OG was healthy for the series.

[sasquatchBob]

Brunsens averages brought down by game 7 injury too. Then again maybe Hb never recovered fully

I love Brunsen

[doogie_hauser]

I'll take the guy who finished top 5 in MVP voting this season.

I don't want to begrudge The Pacers or Hali who have been amazing to make the East Finals, but Jalen Brunson was on a whole new tier of excellence this season (yes he had a better season than Tatum on my Celtics)

[hippesthippo]

Silly comparison.

Haliburton hasn't played the same since being injured mid-season and the Pacers have multiple multiple other healthy guys that can handle point-guard duties.

Jalen Brunson has also been playing through injuries, but the team around him was decimated and needed him to take on a bigger load in order to win.