Are the Knicks better off without Randle?

[xb3at band1tx]

So yeah season over, while I do think Randle is a pivotal guy in the RS to get them in the playoffs, I'm still not sold on him as a playoff performer and it showed this year that the knicks depth + brunson can go the distance (barring other injuries on key guys) without him

What do you guys think?

[Dominator83]

He's definitely been exposed an an empty stats guy. They leveled up after he went down. They might be able to still sell high off his stats though

[Bob Ross]

They are not better without Randle. This series proved that. The question is lunacy

[Ursusamericanus]

No. Knicks beat the Pacers with a healthy Randle. Next.

[Chuck Everett]

No. Casual fan take.

[KodiakBear]

Nope, he would have been very valuable this series

[badpotato]

What warrants this thread, when Randle did not play a minute in this playoffs?
He had barely any chance to mesh with this new look Knicks and I for sure hope he will get one - we're looking at a legitimate contender next year if health premits.

[jbk1234]

Defensively.

[Papi_swav]

I wouldn't say better but I think they should swap Randle with someone who fits their team better. Randle is good but he's a ball stopper and he can shoot them out of games. They need a more up tempo 4 IMO

[Chuck Everett]

He's definitely been exposed an an empty stats guy. They leveled up after he went down. They might be able to still sell high off his stats though

This is incorrect. When Randle got injured they were 29-17. They finished the year 21-13. Don't let this playoff run fool you.

[picc]

They're way better with Randle. But I'd still try to trade him for a better fit.

[xb3at band1tx]

I wouldn't say better but I think they should swap Randle with someone who fits their team better. Randle is good but he's a ball stopper and he can shoot them out of games. They need a more up tempo 4 IMO

This is exactly my thinking, I don't think Randle makes them that much of a surefire contender.

Brunson is the guy and yes he needs help but it feels like he needs a better fitting running mate.

Randle has been historically bad offensively in every playoffs he's been in, I feel like the Knicks depth/defense has always bailed him out in the games they won the last couple of years.

[basketballRob]

I think the Knicks looked better without Randle. They need everyone else to be healthy.

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[r0drig0lac]

no.

[dockingsched]

Theyre not better without him but they’re better using those resources on someone else, by far.

Missing Randle allowed them to become so much more fluid, better feature Brunson, just become a more well rounded team. They wouldn’t have been able to do what they did without the flexibility and defense guys like OG, Hart, and DD provided.

Randle’s strengths are less important on better teams when you don’t need or want him to be the featured scorer or dominating the ball. And his weakness or inability to fill the type of roles that you need to support your star players make him a difficult asset to carry and bench.

Other than providing depth to help counter any injuries, I think anyone that thinks he’s going to make them a noticeable better team is in for disappointment.

[iLLmatic860]

Knicks should run it back, making a few minor moves. Randle was playing great and changed his game up. Knicks were also hot prior to Randle getting injured.

He's only played in two playoffs. One where he was the main guy. His role was too big. & last year he was clearly hurt, Got surgery right after postseason. So as long as he plays like how he was playing earlier this season, I don't mind keeping him. But of course he has to prove himself in the playoffs. So I understand why he will continue to have that reputation

OG def made a huge impact .

I'd like to see like what this team looks like healthy with a full training camp.

[Dominator83]

No. Knicks beat the Pacers with a healthy Randle. Next.

Its not always as simple as 1+1=2

If Randle never gets hurt, you don't get what you got from Josh hart. DDV leveled up as well.

This is like a few years back when the Celtics made the ECF with Kyrie and Hayward injured. The thought was "wow now they will be even more loaded next year and be even better". Better on paper doesn't always mean better success on the court.

[jokeboy86]

I think they’re obviously better than Indiana w/Randle but I don’t know if they’re better than a healthy Bucks/Sixers teams and a few of the teams out West. Imo I still think they’re missing a true #1. Brunson is great but the number of small guards who are a champion’s best player starts and ends with Isaiah and Curry.

[SweaterBae]

They aren't better off without Randle when 3 other main guys are hurt. When everyone is healthy it's a fair question. Maybe it's a personal bias, but I absolutely hate watching him play basketball. As a fan who doesn't care if the Knicks win or lose, they are so much more enjoyable to watch as a team when he's not out there being an absolute dumbass.

[JustBuzzin]

No because they win this series with a healthy Randle.

This guy is still a all-star caliber talent. I would take him in Charlotte if the Knicks want to get rid of him for cheap.