What is Tyrese Haliburton's game?

picc · Post #1 » by **picc** » Wed May 15, 2024 7:54 pm

Great player, for sure. When he's clicking it makes the Pacers entertaining and able to compete with anyone.

But as far as I can tell, his game consists of:

Option 1: Stutter step into a three pointer
Option 2: No-look pass (whether necessary or not)

With some drives sprinkled in every now and then? Maybe?

I don't really get it. Obviously he's a great passer and I'm being a little facetious with option 2. And he's a great shooter, so crip walking into a bunch of threes looks amazing when the shot is on. Also have to admire that he's willing to give the ball up and doesn't want to dominate it.

But should he? And what if he did? Can he? These are more rhetorical questions. Cause when I imagine what his "bag" is I can't think of anything. I tend to only see him doing one of a few things, and doing them sporadically at that.

TheRaptor! · Post #2 » by **TheRaptor!** » Wed May 15, 2024 7:55 pm

He is overrated as hell and has no game except for 3s

Revived · Post #3 » by **Revived** » Wed May 15, 2024 7:57 pm

He’s like Ricky Rubio but can shoot and worse defender.

JustBuzzin · Post #4 » by **JustBuzzin** » Wed May 15, 2024 7:58 pm

A less flashy LaMelo Ball.

Karate Diop · Post #5 » by **Karate Diop** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:01 pm

Worse than prime Ben Simmons for sure.

Chuck Everett · Post #6 » by **Chuck Everett** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:04 pm

If he's Steve Nash-like in this era, you're gonna need to find his Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson for him to maximize the team success, since he's not going to be the guy you go-to late.

Cubbies2120 · Post #7 » by **Cubbies2120** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:07 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:If he's Steve Nash-like in this era, you're gonna need to find his Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson for him to maximize the team success, since he's not going to be the guy you go-to late.

He's got the bolded in Obi Toppin... right? :lol:

Chuck Everett · Post #8 » by **Chuck Everett** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:09 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:If he's Steve Nash-like in this era, you're gonna need to find his Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson for him to maximize the team success, since he's not going to be the guy you go-to late.

He's got the bolded in Obi Toppin... right?

Marvin Martian · Post #9 » by **Marvin Martian** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:09 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:If he's Steve Nash-like in this era, you're gonna need to find his Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson for him to maximize the team success, since he's not going to be the guy you go-to late.

Nash can score at all 3 levels. Haliburton's goofy shot mechanics make him unable to stop on a dime and shoot over a defense in the mid range

iLLmatic860 · Post #10 » by **iLLmatic860** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:10 pm

Read on Twitter

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CKB · Post #11 » by **CKB** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:12 pm

Hali is Shaun Livingston before he had the injuries.

Chuck Everett · Post #12 » by **Chuck Everett** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:13 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:If he's Steve Nash-like in this era, you're gonna need to find his Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson for him to maximize the team success, since he's not going to be the guy you go-to late.

Nash can score at all 3 levels. Haliburton's goofy shot mechanics make him unable to stop on a dime and shoot over a defense in the mid range

His teams rarely went to Nash in the clutch in the playoffs to get buckets. He was a facilitator. If that's Haliburton's style, then you need to bring in other players who will be your bucket getter. I mean, Tony Parker was not better than Nash in anybody's rankings, but I'd still rather have him in the playoffs, because he could just go and get us a bucket when the game was on the line.

picc · Post #13 » by **picc** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:15 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:If he's Steve Nash-like in this era, you're gonna need to find his Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson for him to maximize the team success, since he's not going to be the guy you go-to late.

Nash can score at all 3 levels. Haliburton's goofy shot mechanics make him unable to stop on a dime and shoot over a defense in the mid range

This is a big problem.

Its not just with mid range though. I think the goofy shot mechanic causes issues everywhere. He's just found a niche for it.

Chuck Everett · Post #14 » by **Chuck Everett** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:15 pm

CKB wrote:Hali is Shaun Livingston before he had the injuries.

A rich man's Livingston. Shaun never looked this prolific and never avg. 10ppg in any given season. He only avg over 5 apg in 2 seasons.

JustBuzzin · Post #15 » by **JustBuzzin** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:18 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:

Read on Twitter
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That man made a heart emoji with his hands.

Super soft! :nonono:

iLLmatic860 · Post #16 » by **iLLmatic860** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:19 pm

CKB wrote:Hali is Shaun Livingston before he had the injuries.

The 250 Million Dollar Shaun Livingston

CIN-C-STAR · Post #17 » by **CIN-C-STAR** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:23 pm

I give him credit for raising his game when it matters most -- when there is a $1 million bonus on the line for the in-season tournament and when he's playing for a supermax contract

Definitely Klutch w a capital 'K'! :lol:

EmpireFalls · Post #18 » by **EmpireFalls** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:28 pm

He’s a very good shooter and has nice vision, plays with good tempo and likes to penetrate and kick. Great touch on passes and floaters. High on his game. He’s not really a driver, but he’s big and smart and can take open space if given to him.

Not really an iso scorer. Meh athlete. I wouldn’t call him quick but he’s decisive and covers ground efficiently when he wants to.

Awful defender. It’s mind boggling how bad he is on that end but also somewhat immaterial bc he’s a guard.

Not as good as he was hyped to be circa December 2023. Not as bad as he’s being criticized as now.

picc · Post #19 » by **picc** » Wed May 15, 2024 9:08 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:He’s a very good shooter and has nice vision, plays with good tempo and likes to penetrate and kick. Great touch on passes and floaters. High on his game. He’s not really a driver, but he’s big and smart and can take open space if given to him.

Not really an iso scorer. Meh athlete. I wouldn’t call him quick but he’s decisive and covers ground efficiently when he wants to.

Yeah. Seems kind of right.

But what is all that though.

Mostly buzzwords and abstracts, cause his game doesn't really have definition.

azcatz11 · Post #20 » by **azcatz11** » Wed May 15, 2024 9:10 pm

picc wrote:
EmpireFalls wrote:He’s a very good shooter and has nice vision, plays with good tempo and likes to penetrate and kick. Great touch on passes and floaters. High on his game. He’s not really a driver, but he’s big and smart and can take open space if given to him.

Not really an iso scorer. Meh athlete. I wouldn’t call him quick but he’s decisive and covers ground efficiently when he wants to.

Yeah. Seems kind of right.

But what is all that though.

Mostly buzzwords and abstracts, cause his game doesn't really have definition.

I know we were talking about him in one of the game threads. I agree with your OP. People overrate this kid and he's like a cult classic movie...remember when Donnie Darko was a thing? That's Hali