Should the NBA change the odds distribution for the Draft Lottery?
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Should the NBA change the odds distribution for the Draft Lottery?
I'm basing this solely off of the Pistons being screwed into the 5th pick again for the 3rd straight year
The worst team in the NBA having the highest odds for the 5th pick is kinda crazy
Maybe the NBA can reach a compromise btwn what it was prior to the change and the way its distributed now.
The worst team in the NBA having the highest odds for the 5th pick is kinda crazy
Maybe the NBA can reach a compromise btwn what it was prior to the change and the way its distributed now.
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I had no problem with the original Lottery odds, but I'm also fine with this. It sucks BIG time for Detroit fans, but statistically, the worst team has a ~48% chance of ending up as the fifth pick. That's just how the math works out.
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Domejandro wrote:I had no problem with the original Lottery odds, but I'm also fine with this. It sucks BIG time for Detroit fans, but statistically, the worst team has a ~48% chance of ending up as the fifth pick. That's just how the math works out.
I didn't have a problem with the previous distribution either, and it hasnt really stopped teams from tanking towards the end of the season
If anything, I believe the play-in has discouraged tanking more than the changing of the NBA Lottery odds being changed
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No, losing shouldn't be rewarded. Its not like any of the bottom 10 teams are great.
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ogmagicfan wrote:I'm basing this solely off of the Pistons being screwed into the 5th pick again for the 3rd straight year
The worst team in the NBA having the highest odds for the 5th pick is kinda crazy
Maybe the NBA can reach a compromise btwn what it was prior to the change and the way its distributed now.
I don't think tanking should be rewarded. Detroit should've lost their pick because of the product they have been putting on the floor.
The draft odds change is one of the best things they did in the NBA. Intentionally putting a putrid product on the floor should never be rewarded.
What Detroit have been doing the past 4 years is embarrassing, and it's making the NBA worse. The league should do something.
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payton2kemp wrote:No, losing shouldn't be rewarded. Its not like any of the bottom 10 teams are great.
Why do people say this for the NBA but not in the NFL or MLB draft?
Bad teams are bad because they dont have good players, so lets punish bad teams more because they dont have good players?
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vege wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:I'm basing this solely off of the Pistons being screwed into the 5th pick again for the 3rd straight year
The worst team in the NBA having the highest odds for the 5th pick is kinda crazy
Maybe the NBA can reach a compromise btwn what it was prior to the change and the way its distributed now.
I don't think tanking should be rewarded. Detroit should've lost their pick because of the product they have been putting on the floor.
The draft odds change is one of the best things they did in the NBA. Intentionally putting a putrid product on the floor should never be rewarded.
What Detroit have been doing the past 4 years is embarrassing, and it's making the NBA worse. The league should do something.
A little off topic, but what do you want Detroit to do? They're probably in the lowest tier of free agent destinations, and it doesn't make sense right now to trade a bunch of picks for an All-star. Their only option is to build through the draft, and they've done okay. Not great but not awful. Hayes was a bust but beyond that they haven't made any big mistakes.
The colossal advantage teams like the Heat, Lakers, and Clippers have over a team like Detroit solely based on location flat out sucks. Cleveland struck gold with LeBron and Milwaukee struck gold with Giannis. Detroit will need to get lucky with a player like that who stays beyond their rookie deal.
The fairest thing would be to give undesirable FA destinations some kind of leg-up when it comes to draft positioning, but obviously that doesn't work in reality for a number of reasons.
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Detroit absorbing Joe Harris' contract (when he was finished) was dumb as hell. That was 20 million of dead money. The fans need to protest until Gores clean house of the front office. The lottery sucks for sure, but over the years the organization has passed on so much talent (Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Booker, Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Williams to name a few).
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No. Maybe don't include eliminated play in teams in the lottery.
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Yes. They should go back to the original odds.
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They probably would have whiffed on the #1 pick anyways. When was the last time Detroit actually made a great draft pick? They've been picking in the lottery for the better part of two decades, and I can't recall a single home run pick. Just a few solid role players and a bunch of busts.
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:vege wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:I'm basing this solely off of the Pistons being screwed into the 5th pick again for the 3rd straight year
The worst team in the NBA having the highest odds for the 5th pick is kinda crazy
Maybe the NBA can reach a compromise btwn what it was prior to the change and the way its distributed now.
I don't think tanking should be rewarded. Detroit should've lost their pick because of the product they have been putting on the floor.
The draft odds change is one of the best things they did in the NBA. Intentionally putting a putrid product on the floor should never be rewarded.
What Detroit have been doing the past 4 years is embarrassing, and it's making the NBA worse. The league should do something.
A little off topic, but what do you want Detroit to do? They're probably in the lowest tier of free agent destinations, and it doesn't make sense right now to trade a bunch of picks for an All-star. Their only option is to build through the draft, and they've done okay. Not great but not awful. Hayes was a bust but beyond that they haven't made any big mistakes.
The colossal advantage teams like the Heat, Lakers, and Clippers have over a team like Detroit solely based on location flat out sucks. Cleveland struck gold with LeBron and Milwaukee struck gold with Giannis. Detroit will need to get lucky with a player like that who stays beyond their rookie deal.
The fairest thing would be to give undesirable FA destinations some kind of leg-up when it comes to draft positioning, but obviously that doesn't work in reality for a number of reasons.
This. The new draft lottery order hurts more for the smaller markets who arent trade/FA destinations
The Pistons werent even tanking this year, they were honestly trying to get some wins this yr, they tanked towards the end but what do you expect from a team that has sucked for as long as they have in a city like Detroit?
Their front office and overall team culture is awful, but damn it sucks to see any team suffer like they have since they traded Billups to the Nuggets
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baldur wrote:No. Maybe don't include eliminated play in teams in the lottery.
This would hurt the NBA's efforts to discourage tanking, teams would be less incentivized to go for Play-In spots
Play-In has discouraged tanking as much if not more than the new lotto odds
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The current structure is defeating the original intent of the draft. As example, no way two 46 win teams should have a chance at 1st overall.
Change it.
Change it.
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
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Johnny Fontane wrote:Just say yes to relegation
This is the NBA (American).
Not European soccer.
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ogmagicfan wrote:NyKnicks1714 wrote:vege wrote:
I don't think tanking should be rewarded. Detroit should've lost their pick because of the product they have been putting on the floor.
The draft odds change is one of the best things they did in the NBA. Intentionally putting a putrid product on the floor should never be rewarded.
What Detroit have been doing the past 4 years is embarrassing, and it's making the NBA worse. The league should do something.
A little off topic, but what do you want Detroit to do? They're probably in the lowest tier of free agent destinations, and it doesn't make sense right now to trade a bunch of picks for an All-star. Their only option is to build through the draft, and they've done okay. Not great but not awful. Hayes was a bust but beyond that they haven't made any big mistakes.
The colossal advantage teams like the Heat, Lakers, and Clippers have over a team like Detroit solely based on location flat out sucks. Cleveland struck gold with LeBron and Milwaukee struck gold with Giannis. Detroit will need to get lucky with a player like that who stays beyond their rookie deal.
The fairest thing would be to give undesirable FA destinations some kind of leg-up when it comes to draft positioning, but obviously that doesn't work in reality for a number of reasons.
This. The new draft lottery order hurts more for the smaller markets who arent trade/FA destinations
The Pistons werent even tanking this year, they were honestly trying to get some wins this yr, they tanked towards the end but what do you expect from a team that has sucked for as long as they have in a city like Detroit?
Their front office and overall team culture is awful, but damn it sucks to see any team suffer like they have since they traded Billups to the Nuggets
Well no, practically speaking it doesn't inherently hurt a smaller market team more than it does a big market team. My post was mostly off-topic. I'm fine with the current weighting and I think the biggest advantage to comes in drafts where the best player is a generational talent. Give more teams a shot at him.
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:NyKnicks1714 wrote:
A little off topic, but what do you want Detroit to do? They're probably in the lowest tier of free agent destinations, and it doesn't make sense right now to trade a bunch of picks for an All-star. Their only option is to build through the draft, and they've done okay. Not great but not awful. Hayes was a bust but beyond that they haven't made any big mistakes.
The colossal advantage teams like the Heat, Lakers, and Clippers have over a team like Detroit solely based on location flat out sucks. Cleveland struck gold with LeBron and Milwaukee struck gold with Giannis. Detroit will need to get lucky with a player like that who stays beyond their rookie deal.
The fairest thing would be to give undesirable FA destinations some kind of leg-up when it comes to draft positioning, but obviously that doesn't work in reality for a number of reasons.
This. The new draft lottery order hurts more for the smaller markets who arent trade/FA destinations
The Pistons werent even tanking this year, they were honestly trying to get some wins this yr, they tanked towards the end but what do you expect from a team that has sucked for as long as they have in a city like Detroit?
Their front office and overall team culture is awful, but damn it sucks to see any team suffer like they have since they traded Billups to the Nuggets
Well no, practically speaking it doesn't inherently hurt a smaller market team more than it does a big market team. My post was mostly off-topic. I'm fine with the current weighting and I think the biggest advantage to comes in drafts where the best player is a generational talent. Give more teams a shot at him.
It does hurt them more, because they are more dependent on the draft than a big market who can acquire players in FA/trades more easily because theyre more attractive destinations
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Blazer fan here. No they should not.
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:vege wrote:ogmagicfan wrote:I'm basing this solely off of the Pistons being screwed into the 5th pick again for the 3rd straight year
The worst team in the NBA having the highest odds for the 5th pick is kinda crazy
Maybe the NBA can reach a compromise btwn what it was prior to the change and the way its distributed now.
I don't think tanking should be rewarded. Detroit should've lost their pick because of the product they have been putting on the floor.
The draft odds change is one of the best things they did in the NBA. Intentionally putting a putrid product on the floor should never be rewarded.
What Detroit have been doing the past 4 years is embarrassing, and it's making the NBA worse. The league should do something.
A little off topic, but what do you want Detroit to do? They're probably in the lowest tier of free agent destinations, and it doesn't make sense right now to trade a bunch of picks for an All-star. Their only option is to build through the draft, and they've done okay. Not great but not awful. Hayes was a bust but beyond that they haven't made any big mistakes.
The colossal advantage teams like the Heat, Lakers, and Clippers have over a team like Detroit solely based on location flat out sucks. Cleveland struck gold with LeBron and Milwaukee struck gold with Giannis. Detroit will need to get lucky with a player like that who stays beyond their rookie deal.
The fairest thing would be to give undesirable FA destinations some kind of leg-up when it comes to draft positioning, but obviously that doesn't work in reality for a number of reasons.
Denver, San Antonio, OKC, Minnesota, Milwaukee, Cleveland (post LeBron), Sacramento, New Orleans (Zion always hurt), Indiana, Orlando, Memphis, Portland (years), Utah, etc are all just like Detroit and have done well over the years and recent years.
Detroit is not well run in the FO. And they have had success in the past ('80s, parts of the '90s and '00s). NBA championships.