Suggs would go ahead of Mobley in the redraft

[MagicMatic]

Depends on who is taking him.

I’m taking Suggs 10/10 times if I have Paolo.

I’m also taking Franz ahead of Mobley. You are a fool if you think otherwise.

You still taking Franz after that game 7 performance?

Yeah. I’m not letting 1 game decide this. Mobley is a role player at best.

[BDM22]

Depends on who is taking him.

I’m taking Suggs 10/10 times if I have Paolo.

I’m also taking Franz ahead of Mobley. You are a fool if you think otherwise.

You still taking Franz after that game 7 performance?

Yeah. I’m not letting 1 game decide this. Mobley is a role player at best.

All of these guys are elite role player types.

[Iwasawitness]

Depends on who is taking him.

I’m taking Suggs 10/10 times if I have Paolo.

I’m also taking Franz ahead of Mobley. You are a fool if you think otherwise.

You still taking Franz after that game 7 performance?

Yeah. I’m not letting 1 game decide this. Mobley is a role player at best.

So is Franz based on what I saw from this entire series.

[Roger Murdock]

lol

Suggs aint as good as rookie Mobley yet.

[EmpireFalls]

Franz left his shot in Germany. The shooting regression from him is mind boggling. He completely lost not just his 3 point jumper but any jumper period. Super bizarre.

[Rainwater]

I Mobly really has potential I would take him over Suggs and Suggs is pretty good himself.

[basketballRob]

I Mobly really has potential I would take him over Suggs and Suggs is pretty good himself.

I may look at them differently next season when Mobley gets an $250m extension for 5 years, and Suggs gets $125m.

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[Rainwater]

I Mobly really has potential I would take him over Suggs and Suggs is pretty good himself.

I may look at them differently next season when Mobley gets an $250m extension for 5 years, and Suggs gets $125m.

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That is an overpay for each.

[Vampirate]

He shot 51% his rookie year and 58% this year. Yeah, he hasn't become a super dynamic offensive player but that is a huge increase in efficiency. People saying he hasn't improved need to understand stats beyond just looking at volume numbers.

I think what people mean by he hasn't improved is he hasn't really added anything substantial, though I do think his 3 point shooting/FT shooting has gotten better.

Mobley's greatest flaw to this date is he can't self create his offence, or if he could, his teammates won't allow it.

[Vampirate]

I remember people on here saying Mobley could be Tim Duncan with a three point shot Good times

I mean the talent was there to become an all time great player, he just hasn’t had the rapid improvement that future superstars do their first few seasons in the NBA.

I still think that while it helped Cleveland in the standing and in the immediate future, trading for Mitchell stunted Mobley's development.

He was basically relegated as a role player to win right away only instead of asking to expand his game and the team taking it's lumps.

[Roy T]

Mobley has been Markannend by the Cavs. Trade him to another team with a borderline coaching staff and he will be wildin

[Godymas]

Suggs is the definition of "every single team wants this guy"

Elite defensive guard, can handle the ball, can playmake, can catch and shoot 3s. Willing role player. In such a guard heavy league EVERY contender will want a Jalen Suggs.

Mobley on the other hand is a dud on offense and seems to have made 0 movement towards really developing a meaningful offensive game. It's extension time and he's really just marginally better from his rookie year. The worst part is twice now he has shown that in the elevated playoffs he is unable to adapt his game meaningfully on offense.

It's a shame too because there were talks that Mobley might be the true #1 of the 2021 draft shortly after their rookie years, but for some reason Mobley is not growing and it's alarming.

Maybe it is the coaching of JB Bickerstaff, maybe it's Cleveland's insistence on sticking Mobley with Jarrett Allen.

Cleveland is in a strange situation this off-season, because they could end up deciding that Mobley is not the guy they want to pay on their timeline, instead they retain Garland + Allen, trade Mobley for a better fitting player, and trade Mitchell? Mitchell is supposed to be the superstar in Cleveland, none of the other guys are clearly ever going to be superstars, just normal stars. It's an awkward situation when your rebuild was accelerated and then left behind. I almost feel like Cleveland would rather just have Markkanen + Sexton.

So, you made this post in the middle of Game 7 today when it looked like Orlando was going to advance.

I'd suggest you wait in the future.

ah yes the TEAM outcome 100% determines the individual's performance, you're clearly a very smart smart person. Today's bad performance from Suggs on offense clearly erases the 6 of 13 from 3 and 22 points he dropped in game 6

[Godymas]

Why are people posting like Suggs didn't just shoot 40% from 3 this year, and make big 3pnt shots all series for the Magic?

What am I missing that these posters have seen?

Or are they confusing him with Fultz.

He's the perfect player to play point with Paolo and Franz who want the ball in their hands, and has the ability to be an elite starting calibur role player. Right now Mobley hasn't shown more than him, he just has size which is viewed as better in the NBA.

The poster who said Marcus Smart, said that like it was a bad thing Dude won DpoY, and Suggs is a better shooter, and doesn't make the bad plays that Smart is known for making.

It's hard to find a comp for Suggs, He reminds me of a young Jrue, and they have similar strengths and weaknesses. I think he reaches that level, and has a similar career being best suited playing off of 2 other stars who like to playmake, and can focus on just playing hard and locking dudes up.

Mobley right now reminds me of late late late post knee injuries KG, and think that his ceiling so far is 2012 KG. KG was still an elite defender around this time, but he was limited on offense, and wasn't asked to score at all.

It's really team dependent, but I think both are similar levels at this point, and I dont see that changing in the future

Jrue Holiday was actually the comp that Kevin O Connor gave on Suggs after his rookie year. I think Suggs could be more valuable than Jrue ever was.

[Iwasawitness]

Suggs is the definition of "every single team wants this guy"

Elite defensive guard, can handle the ball, can playmake, can catch and shoot 3s. Willing role player. In such a guard heavy league EVERY contender will want a Jalen Suggs.

Mobley on the other hand is a dud on offense and seems to have made 0 movement towards really developing a meaningful offensive game. It's extension time and he's really just marginally better from his rookie year. The worst part is twice now he has shown that in the elevated playoffs he is unable to adapt his game meaningfully on offense.

It's a shame too because there were talks that Mobley might be the true #1 of the 2021 draft shortly after their rookie years, but for some reason Mobley is not growing and it's alarming.

Maybe it is the coaching of JB Bickerstaff, maybe it's Cleveland's insistence on sticking Mobley with Jarrett Allen.

Cleveland is in a strange situation this off-season, because they could end up deciding that Mobley is not the guy they want to pay on their timeline, instead they retain Garland + Allen, trade Mobley for a better fitting player, and trade Mitchell? Mitchell is supposed to be the superstar in Cleveland, none of the other guys are clearly ever going to be superstars, just normal stars. It's an awkward situation when your rebuild was accelerated and then left behind. I almost feel like Cleveland would rather just have Markkanen + Sexton.

So, you made this post in the middle of Game 7 today when it looked like Orlando was going to advance.

I'd suggest you wait in the future.

ah yes the TEAM outcome 100% determines the individual's performance, you're clearly a very smart smart person. Today's bad performance from Suggs on offense clearly erases the 6 of 13 from 3 and 22 points he dropped in game 6

Buddy, Suggs is not more valuable than Mobley. Mobley’s defense was game changing in this series. You’re acting like Suggs was an offensive juggernaut. In reality he only averaged 2.3 more PPG than Evan. This is a stupid thread.

No one in their right mind would ever take Suggs over Mobley.

[WentzerWuver]

Suggs is the definition of "every single team wants this guy"

Elite defensive guard, can handle the ball, can playmake, can catch and shoot 3s. Willing role player. In such a guard heavy league EVERY contender will want a Jalen Suggs.

Mobley on the other hand is a dud on offense and seems to have made 0 movement towards really developing a meaningful offensive game. It's extension time and he's really just marginally better from his rookie year. The worst part is twice now he has shown that in the elevated playoffs he is unable to adapt his game meaningfully on offense.

It's a shame too because there were talks that Mobley might be the true #1 of the 2021 draft shortly after their rookie years, but for some reason Mobley is not growing and it's alarming.

Maybe it is the coaching of JB Bickerstaff, maybe it's Cleveland's insistence on sticking Mobley with Jarrett Allen.

Cleveland is in a strange situation this off-season, because they could end up deciding that Mobley is not the guy they want to pay on their timeline, instead they retain Garland + Allen, trade Mobley for a better fitting player, and trade Mitchell? Mitchell is supposed to be the superstar in Cleveland, none of the other guys are clearly ever going to be superstars, just normal stars. It's an awkward situation when your rebuild was accelerated and then left behind. I almost feel like Cleveland would rather just have Markkanen + Sexton.

Lol Mobley all day for me. OKC tried to trade SGA for Mobley cause he is that good on defense, which I agree as to why the Cavs won today!

No contest on this thread.

[WentzerWuver]

So, you made this post in the middle of Game 7 today when it looked like Orlando was going to advance.

I'd suggest you wait in the future.

ah yes the TEAM outcome 100% determines the individual's performance, you're clearly a very smart smart person. Today's bad performance from Suggs on offense clearly erases the 6 of 13 from 3 and 22 points he dropped in game 6

Buddy, Suggs is not more valuable than Mobley. Mobley’s defense was game changing in this series. You’re acting like Suggs was an offensive juggernaut. In reality he only averaged 2.3 more PPG than Evan. This is a stupid thread.

No one in their right mind would ever take Suggs over Mobley.

Exactly! Only a fool would take Suggs over Mobley!

[JT3000]

Suggs is the definition of "every single team wants this guy"

Elite defensive guard, can handle the ball, can playmake, can catch and shoot 3s. Willing role player. In such a guard heavy league EVERY contender will want a Jalen Suggs.

Mobley on the other hand is a dud on offense and seems to have made 0 movement towards really developing a meaningful offensive game. It's extension time and he's really just marginally better from his rookie year. The worst part is twice now he has shown that in the elevated playoffs he is unable to adapt his game meaningfully on offense.

It's a shame too because there were talks that Mobley might be the true #1 of the 2021 draft shortly after their rookie years, but for some reason Mobley is not growing and it's alarming.

Maybe it is the coaching of JB Bickerstaff, maybe it's Cleveland's insistence on sticking Mobley with Jarrett Allen.

Cleveland is in a strange situation this off-season, because they could end up deciding that Mobley is not the guy they want to pay on their timeline, instead they retain Garland + Allen, trade Mobley for a better fitting player, and trade Mitchell? Mitchell is supposed to be the superstar in Cleveland, none of the other guys are clearly ever going to be superstars, just normal stars. It's an awkward situation when your rebuild was accelerated and then left behind. I almost feel like Cleveland would rather just have Markkanen + Sexton.

Lol Mobley all day for me. OKC tried to trade SGA for Mobley cause he is that good on defense, which I agree as to why the Cavs won today!

No contest on this thread.

Look at you trying to make it sound like that wouldn't be one of the worst decisions ever.

[tmorgan]

I mean, I think it’s documented that OKC offered SGA and a lesser lotto pick for the #1 overall that became Cade.

It isn’t something I like to remember. So thanks.

[RunOKC]

Suggs is the definition of "every single team wants this guy"

Elite defensive guard, can handle the ball, can playmake, can catch and shoot 3s. Willing role player. In such a guard heavy league EVERY contender will want a Jalen Suggs.

Mobley on the other hand is a dud on offense and seems to have made 0 movement towards really developing a meaningful offensive game. It's extension time and he's really just marginally better from his rookie year. The worst part is twice now he has shown that in the elevated playoffs he is unable to adapt his game meaningfully on offense.

It's a shame too because there were talks that Mobley might be the true #1 of the 2021 draft shortly after their rookie years, but for some reason Mobley is not growing and it's alarming.

Maybe it is the coaching of JB Bickerstaff, maybe it's Cleveland's insistence on sticking Mobley with Jarrett Allen.

Cleveland is in a strange situation this off-season, because they could end up deciding that Mobley is not the guy they want to pay on their timeline, instead they retain Garland + Allen, trade Mobley for a better fitting player, and trade Mitchell? Mitchell is supposed to be the superstar in Cleveland, none of the other guys are clearly ever going to be superstars, just normal stars. It's an awkward situation when your rebuild was accelerated and then left behind. I almost feel like Cleveland would rather just have Markkanen + Sexton.

Lol Mobley all day for me. OKC tried to trade SGA for Mobley cause he is that good on defense, which I agree as to why the Cavs won today!

No contest on this thread.

OKC tried to trade #6 and a bunch of future firsts - not SGA.

OKC was never trading SGA for Mobley OR Cade.. Presti had a rapidly improving star willing to extend and sit through a second year of rebuilding. A lot of people at the time dubbed his 24ppg average as putting up stats on a bad team, but anyone watching knew SGA was legit. Presti knew what he had.

[JRoy]

I’d rather have Mobley and it’s not close.

Suggs is a fine player but some of the shine will come off one he gets overpaid.