Lakers fire Darvin Ham

[10DayContract]

Surely if you are in position to be able to have the opportunity to get the Lakers job then you could get a job with one of those 29 other teams instead. Agreeing to coach the Lakers is willingly signing up to be the captain of the titanic....... after it has already hit the iceberg

there are far more coaches wanting jobs then available jobs each year...that's why they take them when they get offers. Ever single dumpster fire franchise in all sports have coaches...why would anybody want to coach those teams? They must be crazy amirite...

Exactly. Being an NBA coach is a huge privilege. Being able to coach an actual playoff team is an even bigger one. That guy is completely off his rocker.

It's even more simple than that. You take the job for 30-50 mill guaranteed EVERYTIME. Remember, Ham is still getting paid. It's a no brainer to take these jobs.

[10DayContract]

You clearly didn't watch much of him then in 2 years. Good gameplanning, terrible with personnel and in-game adjustments.

Every friggin fan cries about the same crap when their team doesn't win. Bottom line is that the Lakers weren't built in a way where you can say they are better than the Nuggets.

They just lost to a better team in both years while fighting their asses off. They didn't quit and no one outside the LA market thought they'd win. Go look at Pelinka who didn't do crap at the trade deadline to address their weaknesses...

When all else fails, make some vague “rotations” complaint as if shuffling around some random bums minutes actually makes any difference

EXACTLY.

When you start crying about the "rotations" from your coach, you know your team is cooked.

Every single coach in the history of basketball could make better rotation calls. No one can execute a perfect game plan. Expecting some coach to never make a tactical mistake is like expecting a player to not ever miss a shot.

What was Ham supposed to do? Play Vanderbilt more? More Wood minutes were going to save the season? Trust DLo more, because he's so proven? Lakers already got rid of his ass before.

This Franchise is in Shambles.

[HMFFL]

All their problems are solved now.

It's a continuous cycle with Lebron James. He cannot help himself.

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[sfernald]

It is all luck. This year's Lakers team was better than last year's.
Lakers could have been the 8th seed and probably get to the WCF like last year but would have still lost to Nuggets in 5 in WCF but that would have resulted in Ham not losing his job.

A better coach probably pushes the Nuggets series to 6 games but that is it. Lakers weren't going to win that series.

If Lakers are going to try to be a real contender by trading picks then instead of trading for a star they should trade for two 3 and D role players.

I mean it’s totally Ham’s fault they had no shooters at all around Bron right?

[One Last Shot]

I blame LeBron he broke Ham.

Read on Twitter

[Teen Girl Squad]

Every friggin fan cries about the same crap when their team doesn't win. Bottom line is that the Lakers weren't built in a way where you can say they are better than the Nuggets.

They just lost to a better team in both years while fighting their asses off. They didn't quit and no one outside the LA market thought they'd win. Go look at Pelinka who didn't do crap at the trade deadline to address their weaknesses...

When all else fails, make some vague “rotations” complaint as if shuffling around some random bums minutes actually makes any difference

EXACTLY.

When you start crying about the "rotations" from your coach, you know your team is cooked.

Every single coach in the history of basketball could make better rotation calls. No one can execute a perfect game plan. Expecting some coach to never make a tactical mistake is like expecting a player to not ever miss a shot.

What was Ham supposed to do? Play Vanderbilt more? More Wood minutes were going to save the season? Trust DLo more, because he's so proven? Lakers already got rid of his ass before.

This Franchise is in Shambles.

As a Lakers fan, I agree.
Its the same thing with baseball fans and pitching decisions. 99% of rotation complaints are "X didn't work, not X would have worked 100% of the time!" This Lakers team basically played to its potential and lost two hard fought series to the best team in the league. I don't think Ham was a great/elite coach, but like Vogel, he was perfectly fine. Made obvious rotations, had players working hard and generally focused etc...I don't think Malone of the Nuggets is a clear tier above them either. There are only a few coaches that are truly elite (like Spo) and there are bad coaches (not as many as the past) and most are perfectly competent these days.

[Loneshot]

He had some really questionable lineups. Though the Lakers overachieved still.

It's a flawed roster construction. Most of his best shooters couldn't defend and his best defenders couldn't shoot.

100%. That's why I believe they have over achieved the last two seasons. Ham knew what the job was though; anyone that takes the Lakers coaching job expects this.

[shi-woo]

IDK why it stuck with me, but I remember listening to The Lowe Post at the start of the year or last, and he was talking to Doris Burke, and was postulating about what the Lakers could have done because they didn't make any significant moves. Doris told a story about how she was talking to Jeanie Bus, said the same thing, and Jeanie said "We did make a significant move. We added Darvin Ham."

Not a story worth telling, just the conviction in her voice, and level of confidence she said that with has stuck with me all this time. Like someone saying "We just traded for Tom Brady and Randy Moss".

People fall for the trap of thinking because players like a dude, they will be a good coach. It's sad because inn the real world, we are all taught that if your employees look at you as a friend, or if you get promoted from within and need to lead people you used to work with, it doesn't always work out in most fields.

The NBA is one of those fields more often than not. Ty Lue is the only one that's seemed to work out, but I think that was more the circumstances than his actually performance as a coach

[FarBeyondDriven]

how many coaches has Lebron gotten fired now?

[FrobeBryant]

Dude lost the locker room with his horrible decision making. So much so that AD, generally an easy going guy, publicly called out the coaching in the middle of the series. There were reports of locker room issues mid-way through the season and it was aimed at Ham and his favoritism and lineup decisions. Gotta get rid of the coach when it gets that bad.

[NyKnicks1714]

Dude lost the locker room with his horrible decision making. So much so that AD, generally an easy going guy, publicly called out the coaching in the middle of the series. There were reports of locker room issues mid-way through the season and it was aimed at Ham and his favoritism and lineup decisions. Gotta get rid of the coach when it gets that bad.

He wasn't as bad as this, but there are just better options, even if they're gambles like Reddick or Rondo.

[HanzGruber]

Bud is the safest choice. But it would be interesting to see what jj does. It would probably ruin his and lebrons relationship lol

[infinite11285]

All their problems are solved now.

It's a continuous cycle with Lebron James. He cannot help himself.

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Ham could barely manage timeouts. Christian Woods was his 6th for several months. What're we talking about here?

[infinite11285]

how many coaches has Lebron gotten fired now?

Of the fired coaches, how many won a ring as a head coach afterwards?

0.

These hot troll takes are beyond comical.

[blackcosmos]

Lebron has 10 coaches in 21 seasons.
So Ham is right on schedule

LeCoachKiller

[NyKnicks1714]

All their problems are solved now.

It's a continuous cycle with Lebron James. He cannot help himself.

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Ham could barely manage timeouts. Christian Woods was his 6th for several months. What're we talking about here?

LeBron has gotten one coach fired and that's Blatt. There's no indication at all he had anything to do with Vogel or Ham getting fired.

[infinite11285]

It's a continuous cycle with Lebron James. He cannot help himself.

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Ham could barely manage timeouts. Christian Woods was his 6th for several months. What're we talking about here?

LeBron has gotten one coach fired and that's Blatt. There's no indication at all he had anything to do with Vogel or Ham getting fired.

It doesn't matter. Not a single HC LeBron got “fired” experienced success on any level. Again, the microwaved takes on this Board are exhausting at times.

Folks really think a 40-year-old is making Front Office moves. It's quite stupid.

[Kordic27]

When do people start looking in Pelinka’s direction?

[jkvonny]

how many coaches has Lebron gotten fired now?

Of the fired coaches, how many won a ring as a head coach afterwards?

0.

These hot troll takes are beyond comical.

How many fired coaches in the last decade or so have won rings afterwards, period?

Coach Bud (after ATL), Malone (after Sacramento), Carlisle (after 1st stint with Pacers), Glenn Rivers (after Orlando)....

How common do you think it is??

[infinite11285]

how many coaches has Lebron gotten fired now?

Of the fired coaches, how many won a ring as a head coach afterwards?

0.

These hot troll takes are beyond comical.

How many fired coaches in the last decade or so have won rings afterwards, period?

Coach Bud (after ATL), Malone (after Sacramento), Carlisle (after 1st stint with Pacers), Glenn Rivers (after Orlando)....

How common do you think it is??

You're only proving my point that no one player should be held responsible for coaches being fired. It's a results driven position.

Even worse, some of Ham’s biggest antagonists in this thread since his hire are now his cheerleaders.