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vulture wrote:Optms wrote:Brunson has been the MVP of the post season. He hasn't gotten enough credit on here.
He’s not even top 5 for me. He has 54 ts% in the playoffs.
Im Coming Home wrote:titlebound1 wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:No its not.. we have the best player between the two teams, and an all-nba, 2x allstar power forward, along with a DPOY-tier Center(when healthy), and some of the absolute best role players in the league, and we're very deep when healthy..
You're insanely underrating a healthy Knicks team. Unfortunately we won't find out this team.
Yeah Brunson is not a better all around player than Tatum. That is laughable.
Randle is a black hole and a fringe all star at best. The Celtics have 2 all NBA players. An all star level center and 2 all NBA level defensive guards. It's not close
Randle a black hole?
He averaged 5 assists as a PF this year..
Anyways you're clearly unable to be unbiased and have your mind made up so it's not really worth having this back and fourth anyways.
Im Coming Home wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:celtics do have the best player between us (gap is pretty small between tatum and brunson so you can make an argument for either) but that doesn't mean we can't beat them (fully healthy). we beat the nuggets, timberwolves, heat,dallas .. etc. when we were at full strength. i believe our record was 12-1 when they all played. or 11-1. small sample size but we were dominating. knicks are likely gonna run it back so we'll see how it holds up next year.
yeah we weren't just beating teams, we were blowing out some of the best teams consistently during that stretch. I feel like we beat multiple good teams by 15+ or something like that in that stretch, while playing the leagues best defense.
I disgaree with Tatum being better than Brunson, Brunson's offensive game outweights whatever negative he is on defense, and he isn't THAT much of a negative on defense.
Optms wrote:vulture wrote:Optms wrote:Brunson has been the MVP of the post season. He hasn't gotten enough credit on here.
He’s not even top 5 for me. He has 54 ts% in the playoffs.
The team is missing its front court. On the verge of an ECF birth.
He is the MVP.
meh wrote:Optms wrote:vulture wrote:
He’s not even top 5 for me. He has 54 ts% in the playoffs.
The team is missing its front court. On the verge of an ECF birth.
He is the MVP.
By any objective measure he is not the MVP, nor is he top 5.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2024_advanced.html#advanced_stats::ws_per_48
Oscirus wrote:NiceLikeChrist wrote:This scheduling is lame as hell too. Why does Denver/minny get 3 days rest between games 2 and 3 and then another 2 days rest between 6 and 7. AND they get to start later too like wth is going on
We’ve been playing every other day with the exception of 2 days rest between 5 and 6. Now we get 1 day off before a 3:30 pm start time for game 7. Even the schedule working against our hobbled ass team.
Denver/ minny got their 3 day rest for game 7, knicks did so for game 6. It's pretty much even
DaGawd wrote:Capn'O wrote:Woodsanity wrote:At this rate even if we win game 7 I don't know what roster we can even field against the Celtics.
Yup. While it would be nice to make the ECF I'm a little nervous about what happens if we do.
i’m looking at just making it considering the circumstances to be a win anything else is gravy
Oscirus wrote:itrsteve wrote:Oscirus wrote:Might be a good argument if the knicks season started in the 1st round of the playoffs unfortunately for your argument it did not
So what’s the exact amount of minutes one can play per game to ensure nobody is ever hurt? You need to share this with the front office asap to ensure a guaranteed finals run.
Get that as a celtics fan that you're loving life because you'll either be feasting on the carcass of the knicks or sleepwalking through another series with the pacers, but cut the bull. There's only 2 coaches in the nba with the running players into the ground problems and the celtics aint one of them. Funny how that works eh?
titlebound1 wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:titlebound1 wrote:
Yeah and you're assuming that the Celtics would just continue playing that way as if we haven't seen them play down to competition over and over again.
They're going to smoke the Knicks and NY being healthy wouldn't make the slightest difference. All the try hard talk is cool...but the talent gap is enormous. I truly hope that NY makes it competitive though just for a nice tune up for the finals. Really doubt it though. So I guess we'll just long for hypotheticals
No its not.. we have the best player between the two teams, and an all-nba, 2x allstar power forward, along with a DPOY-tier Center(when healthy), and some of the absolute best role players in the league, and we're very deep when healthy..
You're insanely underrating a healthy Knicks team. Unfortunately we won't find out this team.
Yeah Brunson is not a better all around player than Tatum. That is laughable.
Randle is a black hole and a fringe all star at best. The Celtics have 2 all NBA players. An all star level center and 2 all NBA level defensive guards. It's not close
Oscirus wrote:itrsteve wrote:Oscirus wrote:Might be a good argument if the knicks season started in the 1st round of the playoffs unfortunately for your argument it did not
So what’s the exact amount of minutes one can play per game to ensure nobody is ever hurt? You need to share this with the front office asap to ensure a guaranteed finals run.
Get that as a celtics fan that you're loving life because you'll either be feasting on the carcass of the knicks or sleepwalking through another series with the pacers, but cut the bull. There's only 2 coaches in the nba with the running players into the ground problems and the celtics aint one of them. Funny how that works eh?
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titlebound1 wrote:Im Coming Home wrote:titlebound1 wrote:
Yeah Brunson is not a better all around player than Tatum. That is laughable.
Randle is a black hole and a fringe all star at best. The Celtics have 2 all NBA players. An all star level center and 2 all NBA level defensive guards. It's not close
Randle a black hole?
He averaged 5 assists as a PF this year..
Anyways you're clearly unable to be unbiased and have your mind made up so it's not really worth having this back and fourth anyways.
Yes a black hole. And will never, ever be a real difference maker in the NBA.
And you don't need to be unbiased to see that a healthy Knicks are far below a healthy Celtics team. It's pretty obvious
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Tracymcgoaty wrote:Pacers basically facing a mutilated knicks team.
Hart with an injury. OG gone,Robinson gone,Randle gone
Brunson will have to go off.
Either way Boston will beat the living crap out of both these teams. Knicks because they've got like 70% of their starters injured. Pacers because they have no defense.
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
meh wrote:Optms wrote:vulture wrote:
He’s not even top 5 for me. He has 54 ts% in the playoffs.
The team is missing its front court. On the verge of an ECF birth.
He is the MVP.
By any objective measure he is not the MVP, nor is he top 5.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2024_advanced.html#advanced_stats::ws_per_48
cgf wrote:Tracymcgoaty wrote:Pacers basically facing a mutilated knicks team.
Hart with an injury. OG gone,Robinson gone,Randle gone
Brunson will have to go off.
Either way Boston will beat the living crap out of both these teams. Knicks because they've got like 70% of their starters injured. Pacers because they have no defense.
Boston is soft and over-rated as a playoff threat.
itrsteve wrote:Oscirus wrote:itrsteve wrote:
So what’s the exact amount of minutes one can play per game to ensure nobody is ever hurt? You need to share this with the front office asap to ensure a guaranteed finals run.
Get that as a celtics fan that you're loving life because you'll either be feasting on the carcass of the knicks or sleepwalking through another series with the pacers, but cut the bull. There's only 2 coaches in the nba with the running players into the ground problems and the celtics aint one of them. Funny how that works eh?
Remove me as a Celtics fan. If anything I’m happy that The Knicks are relevant again (you can search my post history to back that up).
I’m against the lazy logic that all failures rest on Tibs and the imaginary minute meter. If anything, I respect him as a coach so much and what he’s been able to do in NY.
What I argue with is that the Knicks were a clear championship team coming into this season and playing guys an extra 4-6 minutes per night destroyed their chances. When was the last time NYK has won 7 in a playoff run (and maybe 8 tomorrow)?
Fatigue happens, injury happens. No competitor basks in it. Championships are hard and there’s no direct path there.
Blaming a coach who has been a the helm for the first period of relevancy in a decade of a franchise isn’t an indictment, it’s proof of effectiveness.
If it makes things easy for you, blame the coach. But that franchise hasn’t done jack sh*t without him.
Jimmit79 wrote:At this point I want RJ to get paid
NiceLikeChrist wrote:Oscirus wrote:NiceLikeChrist wrote:This scheduling is lame as hell too. Why does Denver/minny get 3 days rest between games 2 and 3 and then another 2 days rest between 6 and 7. AND they get to start later too like wth is going on
We’ve been playing every other day with the exception of 2 days rest between 5 and 6. Now we get 1 day off before a 3:30 pm start time for game 7. Even the schedule working against our hobbled ass team.
Denver/ minny got their 3 day rest for game 7, knicks did so for game 6. It's pretty much even
I laid out the exact rest dates as they are.
We never had 3 days rest in this series. Denver minny got 3 days rest between games 2 and 3. Like they literally had 3 days off. And then they get another 2 days off between games 6 and 7.
We’ve played every other day this series with the exception of 2 days rest between games 5 and 6. Denver and minny played game 6 before we played our game 6 but their game 7 is played after ours.
The Denver/minny series has 9 days of rest in the series. We only get 7. The scheduling definitely isn’t in our favor.
Oscirus wrote:itrsteve wrote:Oscirus wrote:Get that as a celtics fan that you're loving life because you'll either be feasting on the carcass of the knicks or sleepwalking through another series with the pacers, but cut the bull. There's only 2 coaches in the nba with the running players into the ground problems and the celtics aint one of them. Funny how that works eh?
Remove me as a Celtics fan. If anything I’m happy that The Knicks are relevant again (you can search my post history to back that up).
I’m against the lazy logic that all failures rest on Tibs and the imaginary minute meter. If anything, I respect him as a coach so much and what he’s been able to do in NY.
What I argue with is that the Knicks were a clear championship team coming into this season and playing guys an extra 4-6 minutes per night destroyed their chances. When was the last time NYK has won 7 in a playoff run (and maybe 8 tomorrow)?
Fatigue happens, injury happens. No competitor basks in it. Championships are hard and there’s no direct path there.
Blaming a coach who has been a the helm for the first period of relevancy in a decade of a franchise isn’t an indictment, it’s proof of effectiveness.
If it makes things easy for you, blame the coach. But that franchise hasn’t done jack sh*t without him.
Did I say all the losses were on Thibs? I put these injuries on him. Donte is the only current Knick starter not being held together by bandaids and prayer; if Thibs ain't to blame, then the Knicks need to fire their medical staff because that's just straight-up malpractice.
Brunson brought the Knicks into relevancy; Thibs just happened to be at the helm when it happened. The last time Thibs was this good was on the back of another MVP-caliber PG; I'm sure that's just a coincidence, though.
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