Suns To Hire Mike Budenholzer On Deal Worth Approximately $10M Per Season

Post #1 » by **RealGM Wiretap** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:01 pm

The Phoenix Suns will hire Mike Budenholzer on a contract worth approximately $10 million per season.

Budenholzer will return to coaching one season after he was fired by the Milwaukee Bucks. Budenholzer's Bucks defeated the Suns during the 2021 Finals.

The Suns parted ways with Frank Vogel as head coach this week after one season in the job.

After a disappointing first round exit, the Suns intend to keep their core of Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal in place.

Via Shams Charania/The Athletic

MitchB3 · Post #2 » by **MitchB3** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:22 pm

Matt Ishiba must love throwing money away.

t-rexCity · Post #3 » by **t-rexCity** » Fri May 10, 2024 3:47 pm

Suns wanted a scapegoat. That's what that whole Frank Vogel thing was. Notice how GMs are hiring ex coaches who have won championships and when they don't win they just get the blame. Frank Vogel won with Lakers, Nick Nurse, Mike Bud, Doc (yes, he did win). It's new way the GMs keep their jobs and say 'hey look I got the best coach and he couldn't perform so coach is to blame'. The Era of super teams is finally coming to an end. Teams who build with drafts and careful yearly adjustments are back.

kenwood3333 · Post #4 » by **kenwood3333** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:05 pm

I bet he last one season max

Rek · Post #5 » by **Rek** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:21 pm

Trade away all of your best defenders > invest a substantial portion of the salary cap into the broken body of Bradley Beal > hire a defensive coach in Vogel

Outcome? > Blame Vogel

Solution? > Hire another defensive coach in Bud > Outcome?

MitchB3 · Post #6 » by **MitchB3** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:30 pm

t-rexCity wrote:Suns wanted a scapegoat. That's what that whole Frank Vogel thing was. Notice how GMs are hiring ex coaches who have won championships and when they don't win they just get the blame. Frank Vogel won with Lakers, Nick Nurse, Mike Bud, Doc (yes, he did win). It's new way the GMs keep their jobs and say 'hey look I got the best coach and he couldn't perform so coach is to blame'. The Era of super teams is finally coming to an end. Teams who build with drafts and careful yearly adjustments are back.

Nick Nurse was given a decent amount of years after winning the 2019 chip. Both he and the Raptors thought it would be best if they mutually parted ways. Vogel was the scapegoat for this team, not sure why when he wasn't given much to work with. Mike is getting the same team and will be dealt the same head in a year or two. I'm not even going to entertain the glen rivers part.

MitchB3 · Post #7 » by **MitchB3** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:30 pm

Rek wrote:Trade away all of your best defenders > invest a substantial portion of the salary cap into the broken body of Bradley Beal > hire a defensive coach in Vogel

Outcome? > Blame Vogel

Solution? > Hire another defensive coach in Bud > Outcome?

Someone who gets it. You sir, are someone who gets it.

RipCityKJ · Post #8 » by **RipCityKJ** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:51 pm

MitchB3 wrote:
Rek wrote:Trade away all of your best defenders > invest a substantial portion of the salary cap into the broken body of Bradley Beal > hire a defensive coach in Vogel

Outcome? > Blame Vogel

Solution? > Hire another defensive coach in Bud > Outcome?

And it comes at 3x the cost it was the first time (Vogel 5m + Bud 10MIl)

MitchB3 · Post #9 » by **MitchB3** » Fri May 10, 2024 4:54 pm

RipCityKJ wrote:
MitchB3 wrote:
Rek wrote:Trade away all of your best defenders > invest a substantial portion of the salary cap into the broken body of Bradley Beal > hire a defensive coach in Vogel

Outcome? > Blame Vogel

Solution? > Hire another defensive coach in Bud > Outcome?

Yup

the_process · Post #10 » by **the_process** » Fri May 10, 2024 5:36 pm

Hiring the guy who beat you! Nice.

I think Bud gets two years before getting scapegoated.

Wingy · Post #11 » by **Wingy** » Fri May 10, 2024 5:51 pm

t-rexCity wrote:Suns wanted a scapegoat. That's what that whole Frank Vogel thing was. Notice how GMs are hiring ex coaches who have won championships and when they don't win they just get the blame. Frank Vogel won with Lakers, Nick Nurse, Mike Bud, Doc (yes, he did win). It's new way the GMs keep their jobs and say 'hey look I got the best coach and he couldn't perform so coach is to blame'. The Era of super teams is finally coming to an end. Teams who build with drafts and careful yearly adjustments are back.

I don’t think they ever left TBH.

The only time super teams have succeeded:

1. When the wannabe “GOAT” decided to jump ship so many times.
- Having the best player of an era do that so many times is not a repeatable process.

2. The other was an anomaly with the ill-conceived cap spike that allowed KD to jump to the Warriors. The league doesn’t plan to allow such a spike again after that.

ontnut · Post #12 » by **ontnut** » Fri May 10, 2024 7:07 pm

the_process wrote:Hiring the guy who beat you! Nice.

I think Bud gets two years before getting scapegoated.

76ers did it with Nurse too :lol:

Bad Bart · Post #13 » by **Bad Bart** » Fri May 10, 2024 8:04 pm

Rek wrote:Trade away all of your best defenders > invest a substantial portion of the salary cap into the broken body of Bradley Beal > hire a defensive coach in Vogel

Outcome? > Blame Vogel

Solution? > Hire another defensive coach in Bud > Outcome?

Body broken or not, Beal is an albatross. You can get that kind of production for a 1/3 of the price.

DAWill1128 · Post #14 » by **DAWill1128** » Sat May 11, 2024 8:05 am

This seems like they are really grasping for straws. Vogel to Bud seems like a lateral move of similar caliber coaches. Maybe fans that have had these coaches before can chime me. Ten million is a lot, I don’t know if that’s what other teams on the market were willing to pay.

njknicks · Post #15 » by **njknicks** » Sat May 11, 2024 1:34 pm

Depending on the type of coaching staff that Coach Bud assembles, this is purely a lateral move and makes little to no sense.

The key blunder for the Suns was acquiring Bradley Beal - you need complimentary roster parts, not overlapping skills.

The key to assembling long-term success is the blueprint of 3 organizations : Spurs, GSW, Miami ( Nuggets, OKC on the horizon ).

The keys are :

Roster continuity (i.e. limit roster turnover )
Front-office stability ( i.e. limit executive turnover )
Coaching continuity ( i.e. limit coaching turnover )
Financial flexibility ( i.e. limit bloated contracts )
Proper asset investment (i.e. focus intensely on cap space management, draft assets )

Incredible how 90% of the league does not follow the blueprints for success, and now the same too for the suns.

Cookin Baskets · Post #16 » by **Cookin Baskets** » Sat May 11, 2024 5:17 pm

Bucks shouldn't have fired this guy. It makes it easier when he is getting $$ like that despite the obvious risk of being fired in a season or two.

Suns have to adjust the roster to fit around their big 3. One big problem is they don't have much value outside of that.

I don't think many teams are envious of position they are in as the owner recently suggested.

They need a point guard. Maybe CP3 will go sign for a cheap deal and some other cheap fa for depth. :dontknow:

deeps6x · Post #17 » by **deeps6x** » Sat May 11, 2024 6:27 pm

Nice salary. Carlile's $35k fine would be about equivalent to what Bud will make in one quarter of one game.