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Salary Cap question

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 9:55 pm
by NCHeels2008
Can teams trade away their TE for free and not take salary back? In other words can TEs just be traded for picks and/or cash

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:34 pm
by killbuckner
TPE's aren't traded- they are simply generated as part of a trade. So no they can't be used how you have described.

Posted: Wed Jan 2, 2008 10:39 pm
by loserX
Killbuckner has it right. TPEs are created when one team acquires less salary than they send out. They are not actual assets that can be moved.

So if Atlanta has a TPE and Boston wants it, the only way to accomplish this is for Boston to trade salary to Atlanta and take none back. Atlanta uses their TPE to acquire the player(s), and technically a NEW TPE is created for Boston.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 1:10 am
by grizzfan1204
Are TPEs only generated when two teams under the cap make a trade, since the salaries do not have to fall within 125% + $100k of each other?

If not, how could TPEs be generated when two teams above the cap make a trade, since the salaries must be within 125% + $100k of each other?

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:16 am
by Modern_epic
grizzfan1204 wrote:Are TPEs only generated when two teams under the cap make a trade, since the salaries do not have to fall within 125% + $100k of each other?

If not, how could TPEs be generated when two teams above the cap make a trade, since the salaries must be within 125% + $100k of each other?


While large TPEs are more frequently generated in trades where one team is under the cap (Both teams can't be, as a team under the cap can't have/doesn't need exceptions to the cap. Also, the rule you are citing is not about how much you need to send out, just how much you can receive, if you didn't know.), TPEs are still frequently generated when both teams are over the cap. This is because 125% + $100 000 can give a pretty big number. If you send out a player making $12.5 million but only take back a player making $10 million, there is a $2.5 million dollar trade exception left.

Getting more complicated, the fact that all teams involved in a trade are allowed to, in terms of cap ramifications, arrange the trade in the way that is most advantageous to them, regardless of how the other teams view it, leads to bigger exemptions then you might first see. I am pretty sure there was a good example of this either this summer or around last years deadline, and we had a long thread on it, but I can't remember it right now, and am too lazy to look it up or make one up.

Edit: So I'm not quite as lazy as I claim; I found the thread on it 7 pages back. Check hereif you want to understand what I was saying better. But I should warn you, that thread is long, at times dense, and a bit catty.

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 5:30 am
by grizzfan1204
Thanks!

Posted: Thu Jan 3, 2008 4:11 pm
by NCHeels2008
thanks yall