Landry Shamet is a Pro

[nate33]

Shamet doesn't have a thread yet, and I think he deserves one.

In his first 13 games as a Wizard, Shamet is averaging the following on a per 36 basis:
17.8 points
3.3 rebounds
3.2 assists
1.3 steals
1.0 turnovers
.370 3P%
.591 TS%
+8.7 net rating (despite playing only 9 minutes alongside Anthony "garbage time proxy" Gill)

Those are rock solid numbers. He's not a great player or anything, but so far, he has been very competent. He brings stuff to the table without taking anything away. He can shoot off the move; he can bring the ball up the court against pressure; he'll attack a closeout; and he is a pretty solid defender although a bit undersized to help in switches. I really like the low turnovers. He reminds me a bit of Hubert Davis back in the Michael Jordan era, or KCP from a few years ago. He's a pro. He does his job and doesn't try to do anything more.

He has easily been the best shooting guard on the roster - a little better than Kispert and a lot better than Poole. I actually think he has been the 4th best player on the team so far behind Kuzma, Deni and Gafford.

I recognize that his presence means less minutes to develop Davis so that might bother some people. Frankly, I wish his presence meant less minutes for Jordan Poole.

[Halcyon]

I've liked him more than I thought I would, figured he would never play for us but he's been a pleasant surprise. I think he'll be a nice piece for a playoff team. He also unexpectedly dunks on people's heads.

[tontoz]

Yeah i like what ive seen from him. Plus he has put up a couple of nice posters.

[TGW]

He's much better than the current starting 2 guard.

[closg00]

Pro is appropriate, a stark contrast to Poo

[Frichuela]

Pro is appropriate, a stark contrast to Poo

On point!

About Shamet, I agree he has been a pleasant surprise. He is also:

1) on a great contract, 3 years at about $11mn/year, with only this year guaranteed.
2) only two years older than Kispert and “Poo” at 26 years old.

[payitforward]

Landry Shamet is having one hXll of a month shooting the ball in January!

He's scored 55 points on 32 FGAs & 12 FTAs for an out-of-this-world TS% of 75.8%

Might a contender out there be interested in Landry?

[nate33]

Landry Shamet is having one hXll of a month shooting the ball in January!

He's scored 55 points on 32 FGAs & 12 FTAs for an out-of-this-world TS% of 75.8%

Might a contender out there be interested in Landry?

In a nutshell, he is better than Jordan Poole at basically everything:
https://stathead.com/tiny/M48TW

It takes Poole 5.7 more possessions (3.7 more FGAs, 1.8 more FTAs, 1.1 more turnovers) to score just 2.5 more points.

[penbeast0]

He's much better than the current starting 2 guard.

To be fair, every other warm body in the NBA including the one we cut loose to sign Diallo is currently better than Jordan Poole who has been the biggest negative in the NBA this year. And yes, he's been the solid pro that was his rep before he moved in the deal. But no, I don't think we can get anything significant (a reasonable 1st) for him.

[closg00]

The question becomes, why can’t Landry’s and Pooles minutes be swapped given how terrible Poo is?

[Frichuela]

The question becomes, why can’t Landry’s and Pooles minutes be swapped given how terrible Poo is?

I guarantee a Pops, Spo, Carlyle or Thibs would do it, but we have Nepo Wes at the helm, who in almost 3 years of head coaching has shown zero cojones to do something of the sort…

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

He's been a pleasant surprise this season. His production is some of the best of his career given he's only playing 15 minutes a game. I thought he had been kind of washed by injuries, which he still seems prone to, but he's been good in most games he's played.

Definitely a piece we should look to get some value for at the deadline.

[nate33]

Landry Shamet:

"I have never felt closer with a group of guys than I do with these guys. I have made some of, beyond even the word "teammate", just best friends I have made in my NBA career this year"

Read on Twitter

[nate33]

I don't think they'll pay him to come back, but it does speak to the strong culture they're trying to build here.

[mhd]

I don't think they'll pay him to come back, but it does speak to the strong culture they're trying to build here.

Does next season have another one of those non-guarantee provisions in it? If so, maybe we keep him as potential trade bait to a team looking save cash for next-off-season?

[nate33]

I don't think they'll pay him to come back, but it does speak to the strong culture they're trying to build here.

Does next season have another one of those non-guarantee provisions in it? If so, maybe we keep him as potential trade bait to a team looking save cash for next-off-season?

Yes. Each remaining year is non-guaranteed. But I still don't think we will keep him. $10M in actual cap room is a better trade asset than $10M tied up to a 8th man caliber role player.

[mhd]

I don't think they'll pay him to come back, but it does speak to the strong culture they're trying to build here.

Does next season have another one of those non-guarantee provisions in it? If so, maybe we keep him as potential trade bait to a team looking save cash for next-off-season?

Yes. Each remaining year is non-guaranteed. But I still don't think we will keep him. $10M in actual cap room is a better trade asset than $10M tied up to a 8th man caliber role player.

Yeah, but I don't think we'll have any cap space this off-season because of the Bagley+Holmes expirings that we traded for unless I'm mistaken. The cap is projected to be 141 million. We are at 129 (with Shamet) and 118 (without). That doesn't account for the two first rounders. I doubt we try and sign anyone of consequence in the off-season anyways since we want to tank next year. We'll be a BOYD destination. Since Shamet is a total pro, I wouldn't mind keeping another shooter on the bench with surprising athleticism.

[AFM]

I been calling him Laundry Hamper in my head all year

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Landry Shamet:

"I have never felt closer with a group of guys than I do with these guys. I have made some of, beyond even the word "teammate", just best friends I have made in my NBA career this year"

Read on Twitter

After seeing this, I hope they bring him back. Why not! I thought he was good this year. Keep him instead of Johnny. That's fine with me.

[nate33]

Does next season have another one of those non-guarantee provisions in it? If so, maybe we keep him as potential trade bait to a team looking save cash for next-off-season?

Yes. Each remaining year is non-guaranteed. But I still don't think we will keep him. $10M in actual cap room is a better trade asset than $10M tied up to a 8th man caliber role player.

Yeah, but I don't think we'll have any cap space this off-season because of the Bagley+Holmes expirings that we traded for unless I'm mistaken. The cap is projected to be 141 million. We are at 129 (with Shamet) and 118 (without). That doesn't account for the two first rounders. I doubt we try and sign anyone of consequence in the off-season anyways since we want to tank next year. We'll be a BOYD destination. Since Shamet is a total pro, I wouldn't mind keeping another shooter on the bench with surprising athleticism.

If you take that $118M, add $8M for a #4-ish pick and $2M for a #26 pick, that gets us to $128M, leaving $13M in cap room. And I'm saying that $13M in raw cap room is a better trade asset than Landry Shamet on a $10M contract. Some over-the-lux-tax team will give us a pick for absorbing a bad contract and getting them below the tax. Or maybe we use that space as a 3rd team absorbing salary in a bigger trade to make sure some other team doesn't exceed the 2nd Apron.