Kanyewest wrote:Oubre is better than he was with the Wizards- not by much though.
Garrison Mathews looks better statistically - currently has a TS% of 66 and has started a few games for the Hawks.
Rui- the jury is still out but he looks better, currently has a 61 TS% and coming off a 36 point game without LeBron.
Otto's body seemed to breakdown but did end up winning a championship with the Warriors. Mixed bag. I would say around the same - looked better next to guys like Steph but ultimately his body, not coaching failed him.
Young and McGee were about the same- functional role players- one could argue that they played even better given they contributed to playoff teams. McGee became better but perhaps with maturity.
Small sample size but if anything Goodwin looked alright with the Grizzlies. Slightly worse with the Suns though.
Mo Wagner looks better. Gary Payton II looks better. Troy Brown Jr. looks better (finally added a 3 point shot, but not by much).
Oubre is slightly better, but not by any significant degree. He is better in the sense that 25 year olds tend to be better than 22 year olds, but that's about it. His WS/48 average over his last 5 years is actually a bit worse than it was in his 3rd year in DC (though other metrics show a small improvement after leaving).
In the 3 years Matthews has been gone, his TS% is worse, his BPM is worse, his WS/48 is worse and his PER is the same. Even in the very small sample size in Atlanta, all of his advanced stats are down except his TS%.
Rui's WS/48 is slightly better in LA, but his PER and BPM are worse. Overall, there's really no difference in his production. His efficiency is a bit better since other players are absorbing more defensive attention, but his per possession scoring and rebounding are down. (I'm comparing his last full year here to his current year in LA.)
Otto's first few games in Chicago looked like his last games here. But immediately after that, the injuries set in and he was never close to the same player. Just because he happened to join a very talented contending team and won a title as a bench role player doesn't mean he himself was a better player.
Young and McGee were pretty much useless for the next 5 years after departure. Young never did anything. McGee finally figured out how to play within himself and be a useful role player about 10 years after leaving DC. I hardly consider that a failure in player development.
Wagner is better. But he improved a great deal while he was here too (relative to his first year in LA). I don't think you can argue that we were holding him back. He only played 90 games with us and he showed steady improvement throughout. He just continued to improve after leaving, as young players often do.
I maintain my position. You can't really look at anyone who has left the Wizards and credibly state that the Wizards lousy player development was holding them back. Just about everyone we let go we let go because we concluded that they were "just a guy" and not worth keeping, and they turned out to be exactly that. Perhaps the lone exception is Wagner. But there, I'd say our error was in letting him walk, not in the manner that we developed him.
