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nate33 wrote:The hard part is finding a competent GM. GM's talk. They know Ted is a horrible owner who is desperate to make the play-in every year rather than taking the time to rebuild the team properly.
Dat2U wrote:nate33 wrote:From the Lakers game thread:Dat2U wrote:I can't look at this roster and blame Wes. I can't. We knew this was a 34/36 win team with perfect health.
On top of that Deni has regressed. Barton & Rui have been two of the worst rotation players in the league. Corey hasn't made any progress and the recent 10th pick is so bad, he's stinking up the NBDL.
Wes might not be a great coach but this roster of softies would likely look as bad with any coach.
The question is, why haven't Hachimura, Avdija and Kispert made any progress? How much of the blame can be pinned on Wes? Is he not putting them in position to succeed?
Why is Barton playing so much worse here? Why is KCP playing better in Denver? Why is Dinwiddie playing better in Dallas? Why has Gafford not improved since Brooks was around?
What's weird is that the team looked really good for the first 15 games in each of Wes' first two seasons. Then they crashed and burned. Is the system too complicated? Maybe Wes has a great system if he has the time to implement it in training camp. But teams eventually figure it out, and then he doesn't have the ability to tweak and adapt it to stay ahead of the Scouting Report.
Rui was never going to be good. Poor awareness dooms him to fringe role player status.
Deni is probably out of position at SF. He probably needs to be at PF stealing all of Rui's minutes. Is it the coaches fault he can't make open jumpers??? Its hard for me to blame the coach for that.
Same wirh Kispert, for having a rep as a knock down shooter, he sure misses alot of open looks. Is it on Wes that Kispert brings nothing to table if he's not scoring? We drafted this guy knowing he was basically a one trick pony.
Barton also was never much good. I think its fair to say playing with Jokic covered alot of flaws. KCP also is likely benefitting from playing with a true star and not being forced to create off the bounce as much.
Dinwiddie was very unpopular here. None of us know the whole story but its clear teammates did not like him, his feedback or the way he was running the offense and he definitely checked out after the first few weeks of the season.
Gafford is still performing better than his Bulls days but appears to be a train wreck offensively without a PG creating opportunities for him, he benefitted the most from Westbrook's penetration I think.
Bottom line, the players were discussing are all role players in some form or fashion. Nearly all of these guys need the right situation, the right roster fit around them to be successful. They are entirely dependent on others.
I have no idea if Wes is a good coach or not but this is clearly one of worst roster situations in the league the past two years.
closg00 wrote:Anybody know what Wes's contract is? The minimum NBA salary for a coach is $2M
Some random troll wrote:Not to sound negative, but this team is owned by an arrogant cheapskate, managed by a moron and coached by an idiot. Recipe for disaster.
nate33 wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:They better sign Goodwin. If not they’ll miss out. Jordan is gonna get a deal for sure somewhere.
As a Two-Way Contract guy, the Wizards effectively have a team option on him next summer at a vet-minimum salary (about $2M). He'll be back next year. Don't worry.
trast66 wrote:Wes is a fine coach, this is a very marginally talented team with limited athleticism. He has them bought in to doing what such a team should do to be competitive: minimize turnovers and fouls, and not give up easy 2 pt shots. Sounds simple but many coaches can’t achieve it. The team clearly did not quit on him during a long losing streak.
FAH1223 wrote:Have to give coach credit for the last week and half.
He’s pushing the right buttons and suddenly realized Barton is damaged goods.
Now he’s anti tank.
