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Does the Denver trade signal we are more likely to spend our cap space this offseason ? On an FA ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
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Devilanche wrote:Does the Denver trade signal we are more likely to spend our cap space this offseason ? On an FA ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
I would be surprised if we are a top 6 team in the West. We kind of overachieved last seasont tbh...team was healthy all season and played great. It could happen but I feel it's a bit unlikely.
I don't think the Denver trade changes much about what are going to do in this draft or this offseason. I can see Presti going both ways: giving a 2 years big contract to a guy like Brook Lopez or take bad contracts for picks and maybe trade for another FRP in this draft.
I think next season is mostly about improving with our current core and see what we have in Chet so I don't expect major moves. It makes perfect sense tbh since we are a bit ahead of schedule but I hope we will still take advantage of Shai's prime and make bigger moves in the next offseason.
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Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:Does the Denver trade signal we are more likely to spend our cap space this offseason ? On an FA ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
I would be surprised if we are a top 6 team in the West. We kind of overachieved last seasont tbh...team was healthy all season and played great. It could happen but I feel it's a bit unlikely.
I don't think the Denver trade changes much about what are going to do in this draft or this offseason. I can see Presti going both ways: giving a 2 years big contract to a guy like Brook Lopez or take bad contracts for picks and maybe trade for another FRP in this draft.
I think next season is mostly about improving with our current core and see what we have in Chet so I don't expect major moves. It makes perfect sense tbh since we are a bit ahead of schedule but I hope we will still take advantage of Shai's prime and make bigger moves in the next offseason.
West is pretty open once you get past the top 3-4 teams. We just need relative health on our better players and a jump from a player or two to try and get into the top 6 . And probably improvement in the team 3 point shooting % .
The top end of the free agency is we will end up with KP or cam Johnson . The low end , is there any PF that we can absorb ?
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Devilanche wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:Does the Denver trade signal we are more likely to spend our cap space this offseason ? On an FA ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
I would be surprised if we are a top 6 team in the West. We kind of overachieved last seasont tbh...team was healthy all season and played great. It could happen but I feel it's a bit unlikely.
I don't think the Denver trade changes much about what are going to do in this draft or this offseason. I can see Presti going both ways: giving a 2 years big contract to a guy like Brook Lopez or take bad contracts for picks and maybe trade for another FRP in this draft.
I think next season is mostly about improving with our current core and see what we have in Chet so I don't expect major moves. It makes perfect sense tbh since we are a bit ahead of schedule but I hope we will still take advantage of Shai's prime and make bigger moves in the next offseason.
West is pretty open once you get past the top 3-4 teams. We just need relative health on our better players and a jump from a player or two to try and get into the top 6 . And probably improvement in the team 3 point shooting % .
The top end of the free agency is we will end up with KP or cam Johnson . The low end , is there any PF that we can absorb ?
fair enough.
Damn I don't want KP. I know he's a good player and had a fantastic season but I just hate the guy
He would be a great fit though but between him and Chet, the injury risk gonna be so high.
I still think PJ Washington makes a ton of sense...can shoot and defend multiple positions (doubt the Hornets won't match an offer though).
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Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:Does the Denver trade signal we are more likely to spend our cap space this offseason ? On an FA ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
I would be surprised if we are a top 6 team in the West. We kind of overachieved last seasont tbh...team was healthy all season and played great. It could happen but I feel it's a bit unlikely.
I don't think the Denver trade changes much about what are going to do in this draft or this offseason. I can see Presti going both ways: giving a 2 years big contract to a guy like Brook Lopez or take bad contracts for picks and maybe trade for another FRP in this draft.
I think next season is mostly about improving with our current core and see what we have in Chet so I don't expect major moves. It makes perfect sense tbh since we are a bit ahead of schedule but I hope we will still take advantage of Shai's prime and make bigger moves in the next offseason.
If healthy, I don’t think top six in the west in unrealistic at all. There just aren’t the super teams that there were in years past. This years Denver team is great but they aren’t like the peak warriors. The fact that they are the clear best team shows a lot about the league.
Lots of the names we are used to hearing are becoming too old to really strike fear. Lebron, Kawhi, Durant, George and Steph are all still good but not at their peak and can’t stay healthy. I wouldn’t let recency bias fool me on the lakers. They have a lot of issues going in to the offseason. Players like Luka and Giannis (I know he’s in the East) are still young but play on teams that are asset depleted. Ja and Zion are both disasters.
We are one of the few teams that should be better without having to make any major moves. I can see how top six in just possible but probable.
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ThunderBolt wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:Does the Denver trade signal we are more likely to spend our cap space this offseason ? On an FA ?
So project at 11 . A decent piece in FA . And try get home court or at least not the play in ?
I would be surprised if we are a top 6 team in the West. We kind of overachieved last seasont tbh...team was healthy all season and played great. It could happen but I feel it's a bit unlikely.
I don't think the Denver trade changes much about what are going to do in this draft or this offseason. I can see Presti going both ways: giving a 2 years big contract to a guy like Brook Lopez or take bad contracts for picks and maybe trade for another FRP in this draft.
I think next season is mostly about improving with our current core and see what we have in Chet so I don't expect major moves. It makes perfect sense tbh since we are a bit ahead of schedule but I hope we will still take advantage of Shai's prime and make bigger moves in the next offseason.
If healthy, I don’t think top six in the west in unrealistic at all. There just aren’t the super teams that there were in years past. This years Denver team is great but they aren’t like the peak warriors. The fact that they are the clear best team shows a lot about the league.
Lots of the names we are used to hearing are becoming too old to really strike fear. Lebron, Kawhi, Durant, George and Steph are all still good but not at their peak and can’t stay healthy. I wouldn’t let recency bias fool me on the lakers. They have a lot of issues going in to the offseason. Players like Luka and Giannis (I know he’s in the East) are still young but play on teams that are asset depleted. Ja and Zion are both disasters.
We are one of the few teams that should be better without having to make any major moves. I can see how top six in just possible but probable.
Yeah. I don't think anyone really anticipated the sort of leap that SGA would make this year. I'm not actually referring to his statistical leap. He is just a much better player at this point than he was one year ago. I don't think you forecast the same for any of our young players next year, but it certainly isn't outside of the realm of possibility that any of these players improve in the same way. Chet is going to give us something we didn't have last year. The roster is, collectively, the right age for substantial internal development. I think what we saw this past year is the absolute floor for this team going forward.
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On the flip side I think teams would give us that little bit more effort so a play-in spot is not guaranteed.
But can’t wait for the team to play still.
But can’t wait for the team to play still.
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Would never ever happen but Draymond on a deal that made sense for both sides would please me immensely
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retrobro90 wrote:Would never ever happen but Draymond on a deal that made sense for both sides would please me immensely
on the court in theory, for sure, but I'm not sure his ego would allow him to let the kids do their stuff.
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retrobro90 wrote:Would never ever happen but Draymond on a deal that made sense for both sides would please me immensely
You had me with “sleepy French kids” and now you’ve lost me.
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jake_swivel wrote:retrobro90 wrote:Would never ever happen but Draymond on a deal that made sense for both sides would please me immensely
You had me with the “sleepy French kids” and now you’ve lost me.
draymond punching Dieng would be a nice wake up call.
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Dadouv47 wrote:jake_swivel wrote:retrobro90 wrote:Would never ever happen but Draymond on a deal that made sense for both sides would please me immensely
You had me with the “sleepy French kids” and now you’ve lost me.
draymond punching Dieng would be a nice wake up call.
Then he could kick bilal in the bilalls.
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jake_swivel wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:jake_swivel wrote:
You had me with the “sleepy French kids” and now you’ve lost me.
draymond punching Dieng would be a nice wake up call.
Then he could kick bilal in the bilalls.
gotta buy another FRP and draft Bilal and Dick to make it better.
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Dadouv47 wrote:retrobro90 wrote:Would never ever happen but Draymond on a deal that made sense for both sides would please me immensely
on the court in theory, for sure, but I'm not sure his ego would allow him to let the kids do their stuff.
I think if he came (he won't) that it would be under the pretense that we're on a winning trajectory and I really don't care if it means Dieng gets his feelings hurt by it. Think Giddey/Chet/JDub would all have the mental makeup/competitive fire necessary to keep that relationship synergistic
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Dadouv47 wrote:jake_swivel wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:
draymond punching Dieng would be a nice wake up call.
Then he could kick bilal in the bilalls.
gotta buy another FRP and draft Bilal and Dick to make it better.
I agree Bilal or hendricks and dick might put us over the top.
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We all know this, but it’s good to remember.
Over the last 6 seasons, now 31 year old kawhi average number of games played: 38.5
Degenerative right quad. Torn right ACL. Torn right meniscus.
Over the last 4 seasons, now 32 year old Paul George average number of games played: 47.25
Second oldest roster in the league.176ish million guaranteed next year. George and kawhi have player options for year after next. Pretty decent possibility george bolts with limited compensation coming back (possibly none?) and kawhi picks his option up. Basically no draft picks. Kawhi is likely to be out a big portion of next year with injury. Shoot, there’s a possibility he never plays again or he is never a high level player again. There are rumors of the coach not getting along with management.
The wheels will come off. Fingers will be pointed. We control their draft picks until 2026.
Honestly, I think they’d be smart to trade George this off-season when they can still get some value or they could end up real stuck. Portland should kick the tires.
Over the last 6 seasons, now 31 year old kawhi average number of games played: 38.5
Degenerative right quad. Torn right ACL. Torn right meniscus.
Over the last 4 seasons, now 32 year old Paul George average number of games played: 47.25
Second oldest roster in the league.176ish million guaranteed next year. George and kawhi have player options for year after next. Pretty decent possibility george bolts with limited compensation coming back (possibly none?) and kawhi picks his option up. Basically no draft picks. Kawhi is likely to be out a big portion of next year with injury. Shoot, there’s a possibility he never plays again or he is never a high level player again. There are rumors of the coach not getting along with management.
The wheels will come off. Fingers will be pointed. We control their draft picks until 2026.
Honestly, I think they’d be smart to trade George this off-season when they can still get some value or they could end up real stuck. Portland should kick the tires.
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jake_swivel wrote:We all know this, but it’s good to remember.
Over the last 6 seasons, now 31 year old kawhi average number of games played: 38.5
Degenerative right quad. Torn right ACL. Torn right meniscus.
Over the last 4 seasons, now 32 year old Paul George average number of games played: 47.25
Second oldest roster in the league.176ish million guaranteed next year. George and kawhi have player options for year after next. Pretty decent possibility george bolts with limited compensation coming back (possibly none?) and kawhi picks his option up. Basically no draft picks. Kawhi is likely to be out a big portion of next year with injury. Shoot, there’s a possibility he never plays again or he is never a high level player again. There are rumors of the coach not getting along with management.
The wheels will come off. Fingers will be pointed. We control their draft picks until 2026.
Honestly, I think they’d be smart to trade George this off-season when they can still get some value or they could end up real stuck. Portland should kick the tires.
I very much agree with this. I bet we end up with a top 7 pick from them at some point.
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Saw a couple of KP trades to OKC. The more I noodle on it, the more I like it - assuming we can get some asset (even if minor) to take him on.
Let him walk in free agency next year.
Doesn’t fit Presti’s MO though.
Let him walk in free agency next year.
Doesn’t fit Presti’s MO though.
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