ImageImageImageImageImage

Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg?

Moderators: Duffman100, HiJiNX, niQ, Morris_Shatford, DG88, Reeko, lebron stopper, 7 Footer

Cooper Flagg Sweeptakes 2025

Tank 4 Flagg (& other top talents)
80
60%
Don't tank and pray Masai finds a gem in the teens-20s
18
13%
Push for the play-in, baby.
36
27%
 
Total votes: 134

User avatar
TorontoBarneys
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,479
And1: 5,295
Joined: Dec 30, 2022
   

Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#1 » by TorontoBarneys » Sun May 12, 2024 7:32 pm

Team clearly still shopping for a bonafide #1.
Does Masai have the cojones to sacrifice another year for the chance to grab a generational talent to pair with Scottie, now that we own our pick again?

Image
User avatar
ItsDanger
RealGM
Posts: 25,188
And1: 22,410
Joined: Nov 01, 2008

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#2 » by ItsDanger » Sun May 12, 2024 7:33 pm

Should he tank you mean? Yes.
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
User avatar
Badonkadonk
Head Coach
Posts: 7,453
And1: 11,785
Joined: Jul 11, 2012

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#3 » by Badonkadonk » Sun May 12, 2024 7:35 pm

If the team is bad enough that it can even contemplate tanking for Flagg at the end of next year (assume bottom 6 to simplify the scenarios), that means Scottie ain't it, that this core is going nowhere and that they're faced with the prospect of trading away one of (if not all) RJ, IQ and Scottie.

That is, unless you're proposing trading away multiple pieces before the season starts.
Image
tecumseh18
RealGM
Posts: 17,836
And1: 10,180
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Location: Big green house
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#4 » by tecumseh18 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:35 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Should he tank you mean? Yes.



Because tanking is the sure route to success in this league. What did Atlanta get by being in the play-in?
User avatar
Jcity08
RealGM
Posts: 11,834
And1: 15,894
Joined: May 06, 2018
       

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#5 » by Jcity08 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:35 pm

With our luck we're going to end up as a play-in team and get the 14th pick which we promptly trade for a non-needle moving player and everyone eats it up like its a brilliant 9000d chess move.
Image
Image

Signed with team T.W.O for the 2022-23 2023-24 season.
DreamTeam09
RealGM
Posts: 14,997
And1: 8,695
Joined: Jan 06, 2009
Location: Scarborough
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#6 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:36 pm

The 10th seed just won the lottery, tanking by the definition everyone wants to imply is a myth now. The lottery odds flattened changed alla that
Image

In Raptor Ball I Trust
User avatar
ItsDanger
RealGM
Posts: 25,188
And1: 22,410
Joined: Nov 01, 2008

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#7 » by ItsDanger » Sun May 12, 2024 7:37 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Should he tank you mean? Yes.



Because tanking is the sure route to success in this league. What did Atlanta get by being in the play-in?

Flagg isn't the only top prospect available.
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
User avatar
Badonkadonk
Head Coach
Posts: 7,453
And1: 11,785
Joined: Jul 11, 2012

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#8 » by Badonkadonk » Sun May 12, 2024 7:38 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Should he tank you mean? Yes.

Because tanking is the sure route to success in this league. What did Atlanta get by being in the play-in?

I honestly think it's hilarious the Hawks won the lottery in such a bad draft year.

Even when they're lucky, they're unlucky.
Image
JN
RealGM
Posts: 18,909
And1: 9,953
Joined: Feb 02, 2007
   

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#9 » by JN » Sun May 12, 2024 7:39 pm

Cooper Flagg probably won't even be consensus #1 by the time the next draft comes around.
NotMyKawhi
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,649
And1: 5,063
Joined: Jul 13, 2018

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#10 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun May 12, 2024 7:39 pm

Screw the NBA, I'm done w this league
tecumseh18
RealGM
Posts: 17,836
And1: 10,180
Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Location: Big green house
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#11 » by tecumseh18 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:40 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Should he tank you mean? Yes.

Because tanking is the sure route to success in this league. What did Atlanta get by being in the play-in?

I honestly think it's hilarious the Hawks won the lottery in such a bad draft year.

Even when they're lucky, they're unlucky.


Just like the Raptors in 2006. I remember the Globe suggesting we draft Adam Morrison with the #1. :lol: :banghead:
C_Money
RealGM
Posts: 25,492
And1: 25,731
Joined: Jun 30, 2008
       

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#12 » by C_Money » Sun May 12, 2024 7:42 pm

We should probably tank. Or at least acquire more 1st round picks somehow. Otherwise this is a Colangelo style “rebuild”.
Image
User avatar
720
RealGM
Posts: 32,272
And1: 66,561
Joined: Nov 01, 2012
Location: Malton
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#13 » by 720 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:43 pm

**** yes. LETS GOOOOOO!

Let Scottie and Gradey get a million possessions and grow. Trade Poeltl for whatever you can. Grow the value of IQ and RJ. Draft someone good next draft.
Image
User avatar
Badonkadonk
Head Coach
Posts: 7,453
And1: 11,785
Joined: Jul 11, 2012

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#14 » by Badonkadonk » Sun May 12, 2024 7:44 pm

C_Money wrote:We should probably tank. Or at least acquire more 1st round picks somehow. Otherwise this is a Colangelo style “rebuild”.

You think Scottie signs up for a long-term contract if it's looking like they're going to be a ~25 win team again, with RJ, IQ?

I'd be exploring my options. If next year doesn't work out, you're looking at a full reset.
Image
User avatar
720
RealGM
Posts: 32,272
And1: 66,561
Joined: Nov 01, 2012
Location: Malton
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#15 » by 720 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:45 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Should he tank you mean? Yes.



Because tanking is the sure route to success in this league. What did Atlanta get by being in the play-in?

Flagg isn't the only top prospect available.

I can already see it now, these geniuses are gonna bring up Atlanta going up in the draft all season like they did with the once in a life time Kawhi trade as evidence that pushing for mediocrity is okay.
Image
User avatar
Psubs
RealGM
Posts: 17,985
And1: 10,708
Joined: Nov 20, 2004
Location: Toronto

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#16 » by Psubs » Sun May 12, 2024 7:46 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Should he tank you mean? Yes.



Because tanking is the sure route to success in this league. What did Atlanta get by being in the play-in?

Flagg isn't the only top prospect available.


Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper would be amazing!!!

Is don't move up Nolan Traore or Andrej Stojakovic would be good gets.

I think this year is the only to get a PF/C with #19 or the 2nd rounder.
Image
rapsincr
Starter
Posts: 2,163
And1: 2,326
Joined: Oct 18, 2021
     

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#17 » by rapsincr » Sun May 12, 2024 7:47 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
C_Money wrote:We should probably tank. Or at least acquire more 1st round picks somehow. Otherwise this is a Colangelo style “rebuild”.

You think Scottie signs up for a long-term contract if it's looking like they're going to be a ~25 win team again, with RJ, IQ?

I'd be exploring my options. If next year doesn't work out, you're looking at a full reset.

yes, i do.
User avatar
JShuttlesworth
General Manager
Posts: 9,880
And1: 12,921
Joined: Dec 09, 2013
Location: Toronto
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#18 » by JShuttlesworth » Sun May 12, 2024 7:48 pm

Considering Masai tanked in 23/24 for the Spurs, you would think he'll tank in 24/25.......right?

Wrong. Masai will gaslight you. He'll say tanking creates a losing culture, he will push for the play-in but we'll finish 11th
Spida888
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,943
And1: 1,506
Joined: Mar 05, 2021
 

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#19 » by Spida888 » Sun May 12, 2024 7:49 pm

We know that we are especially bad without a decent center. So, if Masai trades Jak, then that's telling.

Otherwise, I think we are pushing for the play-in.
User avatar
Scase
RealGM
Posts: 10,554
And1: 7,625
Joined: Feb 02, 2009
Location: Ottawa by way of MTL
       

Re: Will Masai Tank 4 Flagg? 

Post#20 » by Scase » Sun May 12, 2024 7:51 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Team clearly still shopping for a bonafide #1.
Does Masai have the cojones to sacrifice another year for the chance to grab a generational talent to pair with Scottie, now that we own our pick again?

Image

You're missing the option of Masai doesnt have the stones to tank.
Image
Props TZ!

Return to Toronto Raptors