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ConSarnit wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:

Skybox wrote:Given what they traded, I don't see people lobbing offers...it's a given Masai will match and teams don't like to have their cap money tied up while big targets get signed. I've put IQ completely out of mind since the trade (for ORL)...but that will also keep the cost down a little. The problem for the NYK was matching similar offers for a backup...for TOR, I'd match nearly anything...I think it's closer to 25 per than 35.

Yeah Toronto isn't going to let Quickley go. I'd love $100M/4yrs but ultimately I think it'll be somewhere around $130M/5yrs. The extra year is nice for both parties.

If I'm Quickley I'm not taking a 5 year deal. With the tv deal leaks coming out it looks like the cap is going up 10% a year for the next 4-5 years. If I'm Quickley I want a 3+1 (doubt he gets it) so I can get back out there at age 27 when the cap is going to be $185m+.

On 5/130 deal Quickley ends up making the equivalent of $18m in todays dollar in his final year. I'd imagine he thinks he's worth more than that.

The rising cap should make players think long and hard about locking themselves into 5 year deals.

Rapsfan07 wrote:

ConSarnit wrote:

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Yeah Toronto isn't going to let Quickley go. I'd love $100M/4yrs but ultimately I think it'll be somewhere around $130M/5yrs. The extra year is nice for both parties.

If I'm Quickley I'm not taking a 5 year deal. With the tv deal leaks coming out it looks like the cap is going up 10% a year for the next 4-5 years. If I'm Quickley I want a 3+1 (doubt he gets it) so I can get back out there at age 27 when the cap is going to be $185m+.

On 5/130 deal Quickley ends up making the equivalent of $18m in todays dollar in his final year. I'd imagine he thinks he's worth more than that.

The rising cap should make players think long and hard about locking themselves into 5 year deals.

Meh. Maybe.

Whenever these TV deals are brewing, it's always rumors about cap rising by "X" and then when time comes, it's not quite that.

Still, I do expect a rise. My hope is that Quickley would value the years of guaranteed money instead. But who knows.

Thaddy wrote:Random fact.

Kyshawn George's dad is a Canadian basketball player that played professionally in Switzerland.

https://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Deon-George/429

Skybox wrote:IQ was my #1 trade target (for ORL) back at the TD...great pickup for TOR, imo. I'm higher on Barrett than most too.

IQ's numbers look pretty solid post-trade, but just checking in on the general satisfaction with IQ and his big incoming payday...any chance TOR would SnT for a largely pick and cap space package? Maybe dump some big salary you're not loving long term?

How about...
TOR sends IQ ($25 x 4) and Poeltl ($20 x 3)....*I'm assuming Poeltl is okay, but maybe some $$ regret(?)
ORL sends Wendell Carter ($11.5 x 2), Anthony Black, frp #18, DEN 25 frp...*Carter is younger, cheaper, shoots 3's and can switch

I don't expect IQ to be available -can't hurt to ask.

Mr Swagtastic wrote:

Skybox wrote:IQ was my #1 trade target (for ORL) back at the TD...great pickup for TOR, imo. I'm higher on Barrett than most too.

IQ's numbers look pretty solid post-trade, but just checking in on the general satisfaction with IQ and his big incoming payday...any chance TOR would SnT for a largely pick and cap space package? Maybe dump some big salary you're not loving long term?

How about...
TOR sends IQ ($25 x 4) and Poeltl ($20 x 3)....*I'm assuming Poeltl is okay, but maybe some $$ regret(?)
ORL sends Wendell Carter ($11.5 x 2), Anthony Black, frp #18, DEN 25 frp...*Carter is younger, cheaper, shoots 3's and can switch

I don't expect IQ to be available -can't hurt to ask.

Not even close. Quickley>>>>>>>Black and I am being generous with this. Like what is Anthony Black's upside/comparison? I seen a site that said Scottie Barnes plus! I mean I don't know about that. I see him as a big PG who a very raw 3 point shot. Toronto can't afford another non shooter. We don't need Wendal Carter Jr at this price. We have a mid first this year and don't need Denvers late first in 25.

Toronto would start with Suggs at a minimum and go from there

Skybox wrote:

Mr Swagtastic wrote:

Skybox wrote:IQ was my #1 trade target (for ORL) back at the TD...great pickup for TOR, imo. I'm higher on Barrett than most too.

IQ's numbers look pretty solid post-trade, but just checking in on the general satisfaction with IQ and his big incoming payday...any chance TOR would SnT for a largely pick and cap space package? Maybe dump some big salary you're not loving long term?

How about...
TOR sends IQ ($25 x 4) and Poeltl ($20 x 3)....*I'm assuming Poeltl is okay, but maybe some $$ regret(?)
ORL sends Wendell Carter ($11.5 x 2), Anthony Black, frp #18, DEN 25 frp...*Carter is younger, cheaper, shoots 3's and can switch

I don't expect IQ to be available -can't hurt to ask.

Not even close. Quickley>>>>>>>Black and I am being generous with this. Like what is Anthony Black's upside/comparison? I seen a site that said Scottie Barnes plus! I mean I don't know about that. I see him as a big PG who a very raw 3 point shot. Toronto can't afford another non shooter. We don't need Wendal Carter Jr at this price. We have a mid first this year and don't need Denvers late first in 25.

Toronto would start with Suggs at a minimum and go from there

I get it’s a “No” but Suggs is even more out of the question.

basketballRob wrote:People are sleeping on Anthony Black. He was one of the younger draft picks last season, I think he was the Magic's 3rd youngest draft pick after Dwight and Aaron Gordon. He shot almost 40% from 3 and played great defense. He's the same exact size as Derozan, but it is really hard to get past him on defense. I think theirs almost 0 chance the Magic trade him.

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CazOnReal wrote:

basketballRob wrote:People are sleeping on Anthony Black. He was one of the younger draft picks last season, I think he was the Magic's 3rd youngest draft pick after Dwight and Aaron Gordon. He shot almost 40% from 3 and played great defense. He's the same exact size as Derozan, but it is really hard to get past him on defense. I think theirs almost 0 chance the Magic trade him.

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He shot barely over one 3 a game.

Gavin_TDThree wrote:let's say that SB and RJ come back with ~35% 3pt shot. Draft gods bless us with Sarr

Could this lineup work?

IQ
RJ
SB
AS
JP

Defensively I think we'd be touuuuuuugh. Offensively would hinge on Sarr being to space even a little.

MLE a backup PG and SF

IQ/19th pick PG (collier)
RJ/Dick/Ochai
SB/Ochai/Dick
AS/KO
JP/KO

TorontoBarneys wrote:Let's sign Paul George to a 1+1 max.

OAKLEY_2 wrote:

TorontoBarneys wrote:Let's sign Paul George to a 1+1 max.

Philly has 60 mil in committed salary. Paul George heads there is my guess. Ditto Caleb Martin. Derozan? Trent Jr. ? Horton Tucker seems like a Morey player.

Slim pickings for Raptors. Lonnie Walker I could see on the Raptors. I could see us signing Monte Morris. Maybe Jalen Smith.

Rapsfan07 wrote:Last thing we should be worrying about right now is paying the max to a 34 year old broken down star.