Preparing for some Brown disappointment

[Mikistan]

I think it’s the best option, let him go and Trent. Let’s try and sign a free agent or two.

I don’t trust Masai with free agency

Much rather see him use cap space to trade

I cannot think of a single free agent that has made an actual impact for the Raptors under Masai's tenure. Seriously. I'm just going for the bare minimum here.

On July 18, 2015, Biyombo signed a two-year, $5.7 million contract with the Toronto Raptors.

[ForeverTFC]

Well obviously, this was based off the rumours of us definitely moving him. The option to let him expire is still there, but how many times has masai just let a player walk, especially one part of a controversial trade?

The ego is just as important as the value of the player.

Are you seriously positing this hasn't happened since the chip?

As stupid as the FVV scenario was, it wasn't "intentional" so much as it was gross mismanagement. He doesnt let players walk for nothing as the default option, he gets caught up in stupidity and playing chicken/evaluating. Unless I'm forgetting some other instances? in my defence I have the memory of a 90 year old, so it's possible

Ibaka? Gasol? Biyombo?

If you're going to speak so matter of fact about everything yet continuously get things wrong, maybe post a bit less and read a little bit more? Every post in every thread is the same at this point.

[Duffman100]

Kawhi? Danny Green??

[Scase]

Are you seriously positing this hasn't happened since the chip?

As stupid as the FVV scenario was, it wasn't "intentional" so much as it was gross mismanagement. He doesnt let players walk for nothing as the default option, he gets caught up in stupidity and playing chicken/evaluating. Unless I'm forgetting some other instances? in my defence I have the memory of a 90 year old, so it's possible

Ibaka? Gasol? Biyombo?

If you're going to speak so matter of fact about everything yet continuously get things wrong, maybe post a bit less and read a little bit more? Every post in every thread is the same at this point.

Ibaka and Gasol were let go to have a chance at Giannis, I literally said "doesnt let players walk for nothing". As in no reason, not just literally no return. I disagree with him handling them that way, but he didn't do it for **** and giggles.

And seriously, Biyombo lol? He let go a guy who put up 5/8/0 and you think that was him letting a player go for nothing? He declined an option on a player that had virtually zero value.

Also since you're such of fan of saying how I should read a little bit more. Maybe take a page out of your own book.

How can I have spoken so "matter of fact", yet also say "Unless I'm forgetting some other instances?". That is the antithesis to saying something with the conviction that you seem to have injected due to your own emotions. It's called leaving room for doubt, since I pretty clearly said I'm not 100% confident. I woiuldn't think I'd have to explain such basic concepts to an adult.

Kawhi? Danny Green??

Wait, are you being serious? Kawhi, the guy who had zero intention of coming back, and was widely known to be heading to LA? That Kawhi? The Kawhi that not a GM in the league with half a brain cell would trade for because of that exact fact?

Or Danny, who explicitly stated he wouldn't come back without Kawhi?

Dude, unless this was sarcasm, put some effort into your post.

[Chandan]

As stupid as the FVV scenario was, it wasn't "intentional" so much as it was gross mismanagement. He doesnt let players walk for nothing as the default option, he gets caught up in stupidity and playing chicken/evaluating. Unless I'm forgetting some other instances? in my defence I have the memory of a 90 year old, so it's possible

Ibaka? Gasol? Biyombo?

If you're going to speak so matter of fact about everything yet continuously get things wrong, maybe post a bit less and read a little bit more? Every post in every thread is the same at this point.

Ibaka and Gasol were let go to have a chance at Giannis, I literally said "doesnt let players walk for nothing". As in no reason, not just literally no return. I disagree with him handling them that way, but he didn't do it for **** and giggles.

And seriously, Biyombo lol? He let go a guy who put up 5/8/0 and you think that was him letting a player go for nothing? He declined an option on a player that had virtually zero value.

Also since you're such of fan of saying how I should read a little bit more. Maybe take a page out of your own book.

How can I have spoken so "matter of fact", yet also say "Unless I'm forgetting some other instances?". That is the antithesis to saying something with the conviction that you seem to have injected due to your own emotions. It's called leaving room for doubt, since I pretty clearly said I'm not 100% confident. I woiuldn't think I'd have to explain such basic concepts to an adult.

Kawhi? Danny Green??

Wait, are you being serious? Kawhi, the guy who had zero intention of coming back, and was widely known to be heading to LA? That Kawhi? The Kawhi that not a GM in the league with half a brain cell would trade for because of that exact fact?

Or Danny, who explicitly stated he wouldn't come back without Kawhi?

Dude, unless this was sarcasm, put some effort into your post.

Flea from RHCP knew Kawhi was headed to LA long before masai did.

[TRik]

Not holding my breath for anything of real value returning from trading Brown…..unless we take on an even worse contract.

[Pointgod]

Not holding my breath for anything of real value returning from trading Brown…..unless we take on an even worse contract.

Well yeah that’s usually how these things go. Why our front office decided it was better to play this game instead of trading Brown at the deadline for an expiring and picks, I have no idea. Let’s see how this shakes out

[CazOnReal]

Not holding my breath for anything of real value returning from trading Brown…..unless we take on an even worse contract.

Define "real value".

[duppyy]

Jordan Poole for the lols and he will be a good tank
Commander

[The Duke]

Option A:
Pick up browns option, try to trade him, but fail to ultimately trade him. He performs and does similar to last year. Last year in raptors 2025.

Option B:
Do not pick up option. Use or don’t use space this summer

I’ll take B

[Merit]

Option A:
Pick up browns option, try to trade him, but fail to ultimately trade him. He performs and does similar to last year. Last year in raptors 2025.

Option B:
Do not pick up option. Use or don’t use space this summer

I’ll take B

I’ll take C. Pick up option. Trade him for value.

[Airmiess]

Raps got hosed for Siakam

[CazOnReal]

Raps got hosed for Siakam

It looks better after they moved one of those picks for Ochai and Olynyk but it's still pretty bad.

[navyblue]

Raps got hosed for Siakam

It all hinges on 2026 1st.

[CazOnReal]

Raps got hosed for Siakam

It all hinges on 2026 1st.

Gotta hope the Pacers overreact to this run a la the Hawks in 2021

[twiggy2]

Raps got hosed for Siakam

It looks better after they moved one of those picks for Ochai and Olynyk but it's still pretty bad.

I feel like this deal would go down smoother if we won the lottery or at least keep our pick

[Fairview4Life]

Flea from RHCP knew Kawhi was headed to LA long before masai did.

It, of course, doesn't matter at all if every single person on earth knew he would leave after the championship, for LA.

[CazOnReal]

Raps got hosed for Siakam

It looks better after they moved one of those picks for Ochai and Olynyk but it's still pretty bad.

I feel like this deal would go down smoother if we won the lottery or at least keep our pick

Getting our pick wouldn't really affect this return, it'd just make it easier for us to trade up if we did.

[ArthurVandelay]

Betting odds are Brown is a Raptor to start next season. Knicks are likeliest trade partner.

https://clutchpoints.com/raptors-news-toronto-favored-keep-bruce-brown-next-season-over-knicks

I wonder if Masai/Bobby decided to hold off on a trade with the Knicks because they know with the Knicks holding 2 first round picks (24 & 25) they will be willing to make a draft night trade. Bogdonovic and 24/25 for Brown? I'd say Raptors would hold out for 2025 pick but if nothing else is out there, I'd take 24 or 25. It would also add more context for the Agbaji/Kelly trade as they wouldn't want to be stuck with 4 picks.

[islandboy53]

Betting odds are Brown is a Raptor to start next season. Knicks are likeliest trade partner.

https://clutchpoints.com/raptors-news-toronto-favored-keep-bruce-brown-next-season-over-knicks

I wonder if Masai/Bobby decided to hold off on a trade with the Knicks because they know with the Knicks holding 2 first round picks (24 & 25) they will be willing to make a draft night trade. Bogdonovic and 24/25 for Brown? I'd say Raptors would hold out for 2025 pick but if nothing else is out there, I'd take 24 or 25. It would also add more context for the Agbaji/Kelly trade as they wouldn't want to be stuck with 4 picks.

The Knicks almost certainly don't want 3 picks in this draft. Sending 24 or 25 with Bojan for Brown, who should be much more useful to Thibs than Bojan, seems like a good use of the picks, while leaving them a first rounder and also #38 to send to someone looking for a better chance to draft Bronny. Meanwhile, Toronto would get a 2nd first rounder, some trade value in Bojan, and #31 available to trade for other assets.