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Post#41 » by Ballings7 » Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:37 pm

TDITM wrote:He was beastly in college... a 20/10 guy... nowadays he is just a 3 point jumpshooter. I wouldn't mind him if he committed to helping out on the boards. I think he is a very underutilized player on all the teams that he has been on.


Wow 20 and 10, didn't know that. But yeah I saw a couple games and read how he was quite a power guy at DePaul.

I heard he was best used on the Clippers. With the Knicks he's been more diverse, but with the Suns he was severely under-used.
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Post#42 » by Tiga » Sat Feb 9, 2008 4:01 am

Would love a guy like Szczerbiak coming off the bench, but not what we need I guess
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Post#43 » by SD2042 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:48 pm

Nah. Szczerbiak to the Spurs not likely to happen.
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Post#44 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:30 pm

I am looking at Charlie Villanueva as a guy who can perhaps give up something.
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Post#45 » by HarlemHeat37 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:37 pm

TD is the MAN wrote:I am looking at Charlie Villanueva as a guy who can perhaps give up something.


trust me TD, you don't want him..he's one of the worst defenders I've ever seen, and he has been poor for his team while he's on the court, which is embarrassing because the Bucks are bad as it is..
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Post#46 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:40 pm

Well can he honestly provide less than Elson? I don't think so. I mean with all due respect we were beat by a team that had the front court considering of Leon Powe,Big Baby, and a poor mans Matt Bonner.
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Post#47 » by HarlemHeat37 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:44 pm

I definitely agree we need an upgrade, but I'd rather have someone else..

I thought Robert Horry could have helped today anyways..anyone know why he didn't get significant minutes?..
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Post#48 » by Ballings7 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:44 pm

Pass on Villanueva. Athletic, but he's a soft player, from all that I've seen and read. Also not a solid defender or rebounder, partly because of his size and quickness situation. A true tweener, and too much of a perimeter front-court player.

If were going to get anybody it should be a traditional front-court player who rebounds and defends above-averagely.

HH37 wrote:I thought Robert Horry could have helped today anyways..anyone know why he didn't get significant minutes?..


I wonder why as well. I thought he should of played more.
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Post#49 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:46 pm

Who honestly can be had for around 3-8 million dollars then?
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Post#50 » by Ballings7 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:47 pm

3 to 8?
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Post#51 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:52 pm

Elson's 3 million dollar contract and Barry's 5 million dollar contract with this year pick. We aren't going to need it anyway given that he isn't going to get PT and we have Splitter coming over next year.
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Post#52 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:11 pm

How about this for a trade...

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Chicago Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +4.9 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and -3.8 apg.
Incoming Players
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
13.2 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 27.4 minutes
Ian Mahinmi
6-10 PF from France
3.5 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 3.8 minutes
Outgoing Players
Chris Duhon
6-1 PG from Duke
6.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.1 apg in 24.3 minutes
Tyrus Thomas
6-8 PF from LSU
5.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 16.2 minutes
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Seattle Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and +3.4 apg.
Incoming Players
Chris Duhon
6-1 PG from Duke
6.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 4.1 apg in 24.3 minutes
Francisco Elson
7-0 PF / C from California
3.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Chris Wilcox
6-10 PF from Maryland
13.2 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 27.4 minutes
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San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -1.2 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and +0.4 apg.
Incoming Players
Tyrus Thomas
6-8 PF from LSU
5.8 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.0 apg in 16.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Ian Mahinmi
6-10 PF from France
3.5 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 3.8 minutes
Francisco Elson
7-0 PF / C from California
3.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 13.3 minutes


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Chicago Bulls

Incoming Players
Photo: Chris Wilcox   
Chris Wilcox
Salary: $6,500,000  Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2  REB: 7.4  AST: 1.1  PER: 17.57
Photo: Ian Mahinmi   
Ian Mahinmi
Salary: $625,840  Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 3.5  REB: 0.8  AST: 0.2  PER: 35.89

Outgoing Players: Tyrus Thomas, Chris Duhon
Seattle SuperSonics

Incoming Players
Photo: Chris Duhon   
Chris Duhon
Salary: $3,248,000  Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 6.0  REB: 1.9  AST: 4.1  PER: 10.16
Photo: Francisco Elson   
Francisco Elson
Salary: $3,000,000  Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 3.5  REB: 3.4  AST: 0.4  PER: 8.67

Outgoing Players: Chris Wilcox
San Antonio Spurs

Incoming Players
Photo: Tyrus Thomas   
Tyrus Thomas
Salary: $3,505,320  Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 5.8  REB: 4.2  AST: 1.0  PER: 14.01


With some picks going to the Sonics and Bulls.
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Post#53 » by Ballings7 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:16 pm

Well, Tyrus probably won't help much this year. But from then on, I love it. I'm a Tyrus supporter.
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Post#54 » by Ballings7 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:26 am

Some vary in realism, but this is who I'd like us to go after:

Kurt Thomas
Nick Collison
Mike Miller
Ron Artest
Damien Wilkins (I like his game, has some experience, and seemingly would fit)
Jeff Foster
Udonis Haslem
Lorenzen Wright
Joe Smith
Ryan Gomes (for those who don't know about him... big 3/4 foward with diverse skill, a good rebounder, plays defense, and has some athleticism. Younger player, but smart and mature (went to Providence for 4 years), just lacks PO experience. Underrated player, too, IMO. Overall, I think he'd be a nice fit. I think Minnesota may want to get their younger (younger than Gomes) fowards more minutes, too.)

I'd especially like any of Haslem, Foster, Thomas, Artest, Miller.
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Post#55 » by HarlemHeat37 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:56 pm

Pietrus asked for a trade..is he someone we can use?..
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Post#56 » by Magz50 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:07 pm

I don't think so. Pietrus would give us what Ime and Bowen give us. A three point shooter on the wing. What we need is a young athletic big who can grab rebounds and play solid interior d. Tyrus would be great if we could land him.
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Post#57 » by CoachPop » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:09 pm

TD is the MAN wrote:How about this for a trade...


As bad as Elson has played this year, we can't trade our backup center without getting another big to replace him. We absolutely have to have two center type players if we want to be able to compete with teams like LA and Phoenix in the playoffs.
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Post#58 » by Ballwise » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:55 pm

Well you can have M. Blount, we'll gladly offer cash and 2009'nd rd'ers to sweeten it :lol: . Now serious maybe Haslem and Blount for expirings ? Too bad you haven't got many of them.
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Post#59 » by SD2042 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:07 am

Have to pass on Blount. He sucks defense from boxing out to playing better man to man D.
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Post#60 » by CoachPop » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:14 am

Dude, I would take Haslem and Blount for expirings in a second. IMO Blount would be a upgrade over Elson. He's certainly not that much worse that Elson on D, and the way he torched the Spurs in their last meeting, he seems to have a much better offensive game than Elson. And of course, Haslem would be a great pick up for us.

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