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76ciology wrote:AB is still young, and we dont know how much he’s gonna improve in the future. Maybe he becomes the next Luka Doncic. Nobody knows. But as of right now, it’s not looking good for him. He can’t create or shoot at the G position, which is a red flag since day 1.
Black has all defensive team potential, and he's a great passer. Black is light years ahead of Suggs at PG, and he has a better shooting touch.76ciology wrote:basketballRob wrote:Okay. Yes, Fultz starts at PG, and Cole is the backup. Usually, 19 year old rookies aren't very effective, and we're trying to win. Players like Miller, Thompsons, and Chet are all one year older and the same age as Paolo. I expect that after 1 year, Black will be in the rotation. If one of the guards goes down this season, he's be the next player up.76ciology wrote:
The previous 3 guys who replied before you got what I mean, and those replies could have helped you understand what my question means.
These are all pretty obvious observations.
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Wont Suggs be the guy who’s gonna be next in line?
I dont buy into the G depth.
Because Fultz, Cole and Suggs have holes to their game. They wont start at G position in most teams in the league. Its not hard to start over 1 of them. Marcus Sasser has a pretty good chance of starting over one of them.
AB is still young, and we dont know how much he’s gonna improve in the future. Maybe he becomes the next Luka Doncic. Nobody knows. But as of right now, it’s not looking good for him. He can’t create or shoot at the G position, which is a red flag since day 1.
Im not a magic hater, I was a big fan of Fultz before and still support him until now (if he’s healthy he can be better than Tatum. But that shoulder looks really broken). And I was the biggest Franz supporter in our board before he got drafted.
It’s just i’ve seen this movie before. Once he gets playing time there will be the “next jason kidd” comparison. Or comparing to great players of past era where the skillset required was different from today. Maybe he turns it around like Lonzo prior to the injury. But again, as of now, he’s starting from a bad position.
I like Jett Howard though and I wouldnt mind him selected at Black’s slot in the draft
76ciology wrote:Wont Suggs be the guy who’s gonna be next in line?
SeattleJazzFan wrote:Black is just such a high IQ player. you combine that with excellent size, athleticism and effort - i'm not really sure how this guy fails.
EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:Black is just such a high IQ player. you combine that with excellent size, athleticism and effort - i'm not really sure how this guy fails.
He fails if he can’t shoot.
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EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:Black is just such a high IQ player. you combine that with excellent size, athleticism and effort - i'm not really sure how this guy fails.
He fails if he can’t shoot.
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E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.
Catchall wrote:EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:Black is just such a high IQ player. you combine that with excellent size, athleticism and effort - i'm not really sure how this guy fails.
He fails if he can’t shoot.
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Or, he remains an off-ball cutter like a Bruce Brown type.
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E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.
Catchall wrote:EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:Black is just such a high IQ player. you combine that with excellent size, athleticism and effort - i'm not really sure how this guy fails.
He fails if he can’t shoot.
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Or, he remains an off-ball cutter like a Bruce Brown type.
Colbinii wrote:Catchall wrote:EvanZ wrote:He fails if he can’t shoot.
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Or, he remains an off-ball cutter like a Bruce Brown type.
Larger and Better Passing Bruce Brown
EvanZ wrote:Giddey is eventually going to be a playoff liability if he can't shoot. It's inevitable. People are still in a honey moon phase with him.
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E-Balla wrote:LeBron is Jeff George.
G35 wrote:Lebron is not that far off from WB in trade value.
CptCrunch wrote:Black needs trial by fire. Slow playing off the bench isn't good for him.
I would argue he needs the keys to a team's offense. Unlimited reps and unlimited shots. No way this kid is worse than Cade Cunningham **** 6 turnovers a game.
Reminder I have/had Black as my #2 player this year pre-draft (viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2291507). I'm ready to die on this mole hill.
Look at the players who went ahead of him. Scoot and the Thompson Twins are combined like 3-60 from 3.EvanZ wrote:SeattleJazzFan wrote:Black is just such a high IQ player. you combine that with excellent size, athleticism and effort - i'm not really sure how this guy fails.
He fails if he can’t shoot.
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CptCrunch wrote:11 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl in 30 minutes with a +32 plus minus with exceptional defense in his first start
This follows his 2nd real game 16 minutes against the Jazz.
clyde21 wrote:CptCrunch wrote:11 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast, 1 stl in 30 minutes with a +32 plus minus with exceptional defense in his first start
This follows his 2nd real game 16 minutes against the Jazz.
Black will forever be underrated because he's not an explosive scorer but will indisputably be one of the 2-3 most impactful/winning players for this class
