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Salmons MIP?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 12:37 pm
by Wilfried
I think he has a fair chance and we must be honest, he deserves it probably too.

Re: Salmons MIP?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:10 pm
by wow444
Wilfried wrote:I think he has a fair chance and we must be honest, he deserves it probably too.


I agree, even if his stats are a bit inflated due to all of the Kings injuries. He has produced while stepping into a bigger role on the team.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:18 pm
by dond
If MIP means his stats per game have improved, fine he may deserve MIP. If MIP means he has vastly improved his skillset and/or the way he plays the game, I say NO ... He is basically the same player he was with the Sixers. He is just getting a bigger role with the Kings. He is a good player and always has been a good player. He just had the misfortune of being with the Sixers toward the end of the AI era.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:19 pm
by tk76
I remember a lot of frustrating mistakes by him late in game- mostly by wanting to try to do too much.

He has always been talented- that's why he got a big salary.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:37 pm
by dond
tk76 wrote:I remember a lot of frustrating mistakes by him late in game- mostly by wanting to try to do too much.


The one thing that stands out in my memory is that he would seem to get his shot (layup) blocked quite often and I saw that happen a couple of times in the game at the Sixers this year. There is something about the way he shows the ball on his layup attempts that invites a blocked shot.

However, he made plenty of layups then and now he probably makes more so it is not as noticeable.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:52 pm
by Louis Williams
It's amazing what confidence and consistent minutes will do for your game.

I always thought Salmons had the skills. It's nice to see him finally putting it all together.

Re: Salmons MIP?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:07 pm
by Ravi
Wilfried wrote:I think he has a fair chance and we must be honest, he deserves it probably too.


Bynum will win it. Salmons should be considered though

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 4:17 pm
by tk76
If Miller gets moved I see Lou being in the MIP mix by the end of the season.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 5:28 pm
by LieCheatSteal
I don't know too much about the Salmons situation with the Sixers. Why didn't they keep him? He seems like a pretty decent player and the Raptor board is unanimously pissed off at him for reneging on a contract agreement with the Raptors to sign with the Kings. Was he too flaky? Too inconsistent? It also seems that the Sixers chose Green over Salmons. Is that accurate?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 5:40 pm
by Sixerscan
When he was here he didn't play like he was worth what other teams were offering him.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:22 pm
by wow444
I think his outside shooting has improved. It was inconsistent while he was here, just like his minutes.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:26 pm
by darius08
Sixerscan wrote:When he was here he didn't play like he was worth what other teams were offering him.

He certainly deserved it more than Willie Green.

I think BK bet on one guy between Green and Salmons. I think it's fair to say he chose incorrectly.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:27 pm
by philbe311
It always seemed hard for Salmons to play "his" game and co-exist with Iverson. Salmons required the ball in his hands more than many that played with AI during his stay in philly. As a result, Salmons forced the action a lot. This isn't an indictment of either player, just my observation.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 6:30 pm
by Sixerscan
I dunno, he played slightly better than Willie, but $1.5 million a year better? Maybe only because Willie was coming off knee surgery and no one else offered him a contract.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:00 pm
by darius08
Sixerscan wrote:I dunno, he played slightly better than Willie, but $1.5 million a year better? Maybe only because Willie was coming off knee surgery and no one else offered him a contract.


Even putting aside what we know now I think Salmons clearly was worth 1.5 million more. I wouldn't have given either their contract but that's another issue.



I also suspect that as one poster said, it was an Iverson match issue. If Iverson were sure to be gone perhaps we might have kept Salmons? WHo knows?

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:41 pm
by Sixerscan
You really think Green matches up better with Iverson? I disagree completely.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:54 pm
by darius08
I don't think Green's game matches up better with Iverson. Not at all. I think Salmons had a blow up with Iverson. I don't remember the details now but there was some bad blood between them by the end. Salmons even talked about it after leaving.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:14 pm
by Sixerscan
Oh. Yeah you're right.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:14 pm
by dond
philbe311 wrote:It always seemed hard for Salmons to play "his" game and co-exist with Iverson. Salmons required the ball in his hands more than many that played with AI during his stay in philly. As a result, Salmons forced the action a lot. This isn't an indictment of either player, just my observation.


I think Salmons just got fed up with getting the "dump off" pass from Iverson with 3 seconds left on the shot clock.

Posted: Fri Jan 4, 2008 8:19 pm
by IggyTheBEaST
tk76 wrote:I remember a lot of frustrating mistakes by him late in game- mostly by wanting to try to do too much.

He has always been talented- that's why he got a big salary.


exactly. the only prob I ever had with salmons was that he didnt know his role.