Fantasy Trade Thread

the_process · Post #21 » by **the_process** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 11:00 pm

Morris, Korkmaz, and Batum for Simmons and 27 owed 1st returned. :lol:

Let Ben be the backup PG since he insists. Sixers could use another ballhandler.

phifans · Post #22 » by **phifans** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:20 am

I would simply target Brogden and PJ Washington. Melton plus that 26 first with expiring contracts should get it done.

Negrodamus · Post #23 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:36 am

PJ seems to have made a jump. Might be hard to pry him away.

Decipher · Post #24 » by **Decipher** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:43 am

Go after Jimmy

The Heat suck and need to rebuild

76ciology · Post #25 » by **76ciology** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:32 am

Decipher wrote:Go after Jimmy

The Heat suck and need to rebuild

The biggest obstacles..

Jimmy = have to deal with Pat Riley
OG = have to deal with Ujiri

Morey probably have to give up his soul to have a chance.

the_process · Post #26 » by **the_process** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:55 am

I saw in another thread that Neubeck suggested Markkanen? Dude would fit like a glove with Embiid and Maxey. And they would still have significant cap space in the summer to boot.

Wonder if Harris and 3 1sts for Markkanen and Olynyk gets it done?

PhillyNj · Post #27 » by **PhillyNj** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 1:28 pm

Decipher wrote:Go after Jimmy

The Heat suck and need to rebuild

OMG NO.
Jimmy’s already in decline and not worth anywhere close to what he’s owed.
At 100 million in the next 2 years I’d laugh at Riley even for calling.
Try dealing with a disgruntled Jimmy for the next three years. Sixers fans have had enough of primadonnas.
I literally wound’ t trade ending contracts for him.

mjkvol · Post #28 » by **mjkvol** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:14 pm

Brogden is about as perfect a fit as we're going to find in those available. We'd only be into him for one year beyond this season at a reasonable price given the fit. Obviously, health is the biggest issue.

ProcessDoctor · Post #29 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:20 pm

The Jimmy Butler Trade Package:

Tobias Harris (exp)
Furkan Korkmaz (exp)
2024 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 HOU/LAC/OKC 1st (lowest)
2028 LAC 1st (unp)
2029 PHI 1st (unp)
2030 PHI 1st swap (unp)

Arsenal · Post #30 » by **Arsenal** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:23 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:The Jimmy Butler Trade Package:

Tobias Harris (exp)
Furkan Korkmaz (exp)
2024 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 HOU/LAC/OKC 1st (lowest)
2028 LAC 1st (unp)
2029 PHI 1st (unp)
2030 PHI 1st swap (unp)

Butler is 34 and owed $146m over 3 years. No thanks. Would love to have him but won't break the bank for him.

ProcessDoctor · Post #31 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:29 pm

Arsenal wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:The Jimmy Butler Trade Package:

Tobias Harris (exp)
Furkan Korkmaz (exp)
2024 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 HOU/LAC/OKC 1st (lowest)
2028 LAC 1st (unp)
2029 PHI 1st (unp)
2030 PHI 1st swap (unp)

Butler is 34 and owed $146m over 3 years. No thanks. Would love to have him but won't break the bank for him.

The 2024/2026 stuff is marginal. We'll still be good then if we have Maxey/Butler/Embiid.

The 2028 LAC 1st we didn't have 3 days ago.

The only real assets we'd be giving up are the 2029 1st and 2030 swap. We'd still be making 1st round selections in '24, '26, '28, and '30 with tons of 2nds along the way, which can also be turned into a 1st if needed.

FlyingArrow · Post #32 » by **FlyingArrow** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:02 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
The 2024/2026 stuff is marginal. We'll still be good then if we have Maxey/Butler/Embiid.

The 2028 LAC 1st we didn't have 3 days ago.

The only real assets we'd be giving up are the 2029 1st and 2030 swap. We'd still be making 1st round selections in '24, '26, '28, and '30 with tons of 2nds along the way, which can also be turned into a 1st if needed.

Because we didn't have it 3 days ago it isn't a real asset? That makes no sense.

ProcessDoctor · Post #33 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:16 pm

FlyingArrow wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
The 2024/2026 stuff is marginal. We'll still be good then if we have Maxey/Butler/Embiid.

The 2028 LAC 1st we didn't have 3 days ago.

The only real assets we'd be giving up are the 2029 1st and 2030 swap. We'd still be making 1st round selections in '24, '26, '28, and '30 with tons of 2nds along the way, which can also be turned into a 1st if needed.

Because we didn't have it 3 days ago it isn't a real asset? That makes no sense.

I should say "additional" assets. Two of those 1sts and 1 of those swaps is essentially a depressed value Harden. So we'd be throwing in another 1st and two swaps to turn James into Jimmy. A no-brainer for several reasons IMO.

the_process · Post #34 » by **the_process** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 4:25 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:The Jimmy Butler Trade Package:

Tobias Harris (exp)
Furkan Korkmaz (exp)
2024 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 PHI 1st swap (unp)
2026 HOU/LAC/OKC 1st (lowest)
2028 LAC 1st (unp)
2029 PHI 1st (unp)
2030 PHI 1st swap (unp)

Butler is 34 and owed $146m over 3 years. No thanks. Would love to have him but won't break the bank for him.

The 2024/2026 stuff is marginal. We'll still be good then if we have Maxey/Butler/Embiid.

The 2028 LAC 1st we didn't have 3 days ago.

The only real assets we'd be giving up are the 2029 1st and 2030 swap. We'd still be making 1st round selections in '24, '26, '28, and '30 with tons of 2nds along the way, which can also be turned into a 1st if needed.

I would also pass at that price point for Butler.

ProcessDoctor · Post #35 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 4:43 pm

the_process wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Butler is 34 and owed $146m over 3 years. No thanks. Would love to have him but won't break the bank for him.

The 2024/2026 stuff is marginal. We'll still be good then if we have Maxey/Butler/Embiid.

The 2028 LAC 1st we didn't have 3 days ago.

The only real assets we'd be giving up are the 2029 1st and 2030 swap. We'd still be making 1st round selections in '24, '26, '28, and '30 with tons of 2nds along the way, which can also be turned into a 1st if needed.

I would also pass at that price point for Butler.

This is expirings/three 1sts/three 1st swaps.

Out of curiosity, what would you offer?

HotelVitale · Post #36 » by **HotelVitale** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 4:58 pm

mjkvol wrote:Brogden is about as perfect a fit as we're going to find in those available. We'd only be into him for one year beyond this season at a reasonable price given the fit. Obviously, health is the biggest issue.

Probably, might just take a meh 1st to nab him so he’d be a reasonable upgrade at a reasonable price. He can create a decent shot, spots up really well, and can role play on both sides of the ball. Would definitely suck if he wasn’t healthy in the PO, why we shouldn’t pay more than that to get him.

(Also your sig makes me think of another Dylan line from Blonde on blonde, ‘you gotta be honest to live outside the law.’)

the_process · Post #37 » by **the_process** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 5:22 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
the_process wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
The 2024/2026 stuff is marginal. We'll still be good then if we have Maxey/Butler/Embiid.

The 2028 LAC 1st we didn't have 3 days ago.

The only real assets we'd be giving up are the 2029 1st and 2030 swap. We'd still be making 1st round selections in '24, '26, '28, and '30 with tons of 2nds along the way, which can also be turned into a 1st if needed.

I would also pass at that price point for Butler.

This is expirings/three 1sts/three 1st swaps.

Out of curiosity, what would you offer?

Cut a first and change their origin, remove all swaps and replace with 2nds and a Lowry exchange.

Harris, Korkmaz, Morris, Batum, 26 PHI 1st, 28 PHI 1st, and four 2nds of Miami's choosing for Butler and Lowry.

I would also expect Miami to decline.

Arsenal · Post #38 » by **Arsenal** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 5:32 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Brogden is about as perfect a fit as we're going to find in those available. We'd only be into him for one year beyond this season at a reasonable price given the fit. Obviously, health is the biggest issue.

Probably, might just take a meh 1st to nab him so he’d be a reasonable upgrade at a reasonable price. He can create a decent shot, spots up really well, and can role play on both sides of the ball. Would definitely suck if he wasn’t healthy in the PO, why we shouldn’t pay more than that to get him.

(Also your sig makes me think of another Dylan line from Blonde on blonde, ‘you gotta be honest to live outside the law.’)

I would hope Brogdon makes some noise behind the scenes asking to be traded to us. We're the logical contending spot for him after everything that's happened the last few months.

If he makes it known he wants to come here, maybe we get a good price. Like expirings (Morris + Kork or House) and a couple 2nds ideally.

ProcessDoctor · Post #39 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 6:05 pm

the_process wrote:[streamable][/streamable]
ProcessDoctor wrote:
the_process wrote:
I would also pass at that price point for Butler.

This is expirings/three 1sts/three 1st swaps.

Out of curiosity, what would you offer?

Cut a first and change their origin, remove all swaps and replace with 2nds and a Lowry exchange.

Harris, Korkmaz, Morris, Batum, 26 PHI 1st, 28 PHI 1st, and four 2nds of Miami's choosing for Butler and Lowry.

I would also expect Miami to decline.

Why cheap out on an opportunity to re-unite Butler and Embiid though? I can't think of a better scenario for us, especially if we could keep Springer (and Maxey obviously).

Edit- Some comparable players and the packages they went for:

Lillard = Ayton/Brogdan/Williams/three 1sts/two 1st swaps

Durant = Bridges/Johson/Crowder/four 1sts/one 1st swap

HotelVitale · Post #40 » by **HotelVitale** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 6:07 pm

Arsenal wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:
mjkvol wrote:Brogden is about as perfect a fit as we're going to find in those available. We'd only be into him for one year beyond this season at a reasonable price given the fit. Obviously, health is the biggest issue.

Probably, might just take a meh 1st to nab him so he’d be a reasonable upgrade at a reasonable price. He can create a decent shot, spots up really well, and can role play on both sides of the ball. Would definitely suck if he wasn’t healthy in the PO, why we shouldn’t pay more than that to get him.

(Also your sig makes me think of another Dylan line from Blonde on blonde, ‘you gotta be honest to live outside the law.’)

I would hope Brogdon makes some noise behind the scenes asking to be traded to us. We're the logical contending spot for him after everything that's happened the last few months.

If he makes it known he wants to come here, maybe we get a good price. Like expirings (Morris + Kork or House) and a couple 2nds ideally.

Maybe but I'd bet POR's thinking highest bidder for now, at least out of the decent teams. They don't really owe Brogdon anything and he was part of a trade meant to start their rebuild, and he's not expiring so can't wield that much.