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TheBallsDeeper wrote:Joel averages 35ppg and is close to the best defender in the league. He works as hard as any player in the league on the defensive end, so is always gassed on offense.

How many points would he average if he ignored defense ike Lebron, Booker, Jokic, Doncic, etc?

Probably around 45 per game.

This is what box score watchers don't get when they claim Jokic is the best player in the league.

elchengue20 wrote:I hate how hes always trying to make clear how much tired or gassed he is.

Thats a sign of mental weakness. Actually a pretty big red flag.

MJ or Kobe sayed that they never let the oponent know you are tired, you dont have to give them any advantage. Just keep it to yourself or at least try to hide it the best you can.

Negrodamus wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:I hate how hes always trying to make clear how much tired or gassed he is.

Thats a sign of mental weakness. Actually a pretty big red flag.

MJ or Kobe sayed that they never let the oponent know you are tired, you dont have to give them any advantage. Just keep it to yourself or at least try to hide it the best you can.

They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

Bum Adebayo wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:I hate how hes always trying to make clear how much tired or gassed he is.

Thats a sign of mental weakness. Actually a pretty big red flag.

MJ or Kobe sayed that they never let the oponent know you are tired, you dont have to give them any advantage. Just keep it to yourself or at least try to hide it the best you can.

They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

He could slim down if he took training and being in shape more seriously. But we know being in shape is secondary to him of course...

Negrodamus wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:I hate how hes always trying to make clear how much tired or gassed he is.

Thats a sign of mental weakness. Actually a pretty big red flag.

MJ or Kobe sayed that they never let the oponent know you are tired, you dont have to give them any advantage. Just keep it to yourself or at least try to hide it the best you can.

They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

elchengue20 wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:I hate how hes always trying to make clear how much tired or gassed he is.

Thats a sign of mental weakness. Actually a pretty big red flag.

MJ or Kobe sayed that they never let the oponent know you are tired, you dont have to give them any advantage. Just keep it to yourself or at least try to hide it the best you can.

They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

You don't see Jokic doing this. And he's a fat boy. It's just stupid, it shows weakness while giving more confidence and information to the opposition to take advantage.

To me is a clear sign of mental weakness, like he wants you to feel sorry for him if he fails.

Bum Adebayo wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:
They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

You don't see Jokic doing this. And he's a fat boy. It's just stupid, it shows weakness while giving more confidence and information to the opposition to take advantage.

To me is a clear sign of mental weakness, like he wants you to feel sorry for him if he fails.

I don't know, maybe it's a self defense mechanism for his choking woes, like "look this is why I fail I'm tired!"

Ferry Avenue wrote:

Bum Adebayo wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:
You don't see Jokic doing this. And he's a fat boy. It's just stupid, it shows weakness while giving more confidence and information to the opposition to take advantage.

To me is a clear sign of mental weakness, like he wants you to feel sorry for him if he fails.

I don't know, maybe it's a self defense mechanism for his choking woes, like "look this is why I fail I'm tired!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-handicapping

elchengue20 wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:I hate how hes always trying to make clear how much tired or gassed he is.

Thats a sign of mental weakness. Actually a pretty big red flag.

MJ or Kobe sayed that they never let the oponent know you are tired, you dont have to give them any advantage. Just keep it to yourself or at least try to hide it the best you can.

They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

You don't see Jokic doing this. And he's a fat boy. It's just stupid, it shows weakness while giving more confidence and information to the opposition to take advantage.

To me is a clear sign of mental weakness, like he wants you to feel sorry for him if he fails.

Ferry Avenue wrote:

elchengue20 wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:
They were also 6’6 and fairly lean. Embiid is gigantic and heavy.

You don't see Jokic doing this. And he's a fat boy. It's just stupid, it shows weakness while giving more confidence and information to the opposition to take advantage.

To me is a clear sign of mental weakness, like he wants you to feel sorry for him if he fails.

That continues to be this team's primary weakness, especially when matched against teams that have stalwart central players who ratchet their games up in the clutch and carry their teams at those times. Organizing the team around an emotionally deflated player when the team needs to compete against such other teams functions as a ball and chain on the entire team. It's essentially the opposite of inspirational, and when teams are roughly evenly matched i.e. the playoffs and in the clutch of close games, inspiration is what wins. This is why this team has stalled at the second round the past few years -- both of the players they've tried to organize the team around -- Embiid and Harden -- are the opposite of inspirational.

Bum Adebayo wrote:

TheBallsDeeper wrote:Joel averages 35ppg and is close to the best defender in the league. He works as hard as any player in the league on the defensive end, so is always gassed on offense.

How many points would he average if he ignored defense ike Lebron, Booker, Jokic, Doncic, etc?

Probably around 45 per game.

This is what box score watchers don't get when they claim Jokic is the best player in the league.

That may be true only on Regular Season, the problem is he always folds like a cheap tent in playoffs, defense or not.

Negrodamus wrote:On a note completely separate from basketball: Do you think Embiid ever thinks at the beginning of the season, “Well, wonder what major surgery Im going to need this year”

Could you imagine for like 8 straight years, you were guaranteed to go under the knife each one of those years?