2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Negrodamus]

https://nbadraftcomp.herokuapp.com/advanced/?player=Carlton+Carrington

Doing this tool, man I do see the comparison of James Young/Brandon Knight to Carrington. I can see why I'd get burned wanting Carrington.

OTOH, Ke'lel Ware was compared to Deandre Ayton and Jalen Smith, two guys I'd be perfectly content with snagging at 16.

[Negrodamus]

It stinks that McClain is a short armed, even worse passing version of a Maxey type prospect. He would add confusion to an already confusing backcourt, but I could understand the selection by us.

[stormi]

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Beat out NBA superstar, Damian Jones!

Having to deal with RAS score evaluation in two sports now. Oy Vey.

[stormi]

It stinks that McClain is a short armed, even worse passing version of a Maxey type prospect. He would add confusion to an already confusing backcourt, but I could understand the selection by us.

I'm lukewarm on the idea of Jared McCain.

He is pretty much shoehorned to be a high level shooter at the next level. Off ball weapon. I just don't see much else. Won't defend anyone, will probably struggle to finish in traffic or impact the game on the defensive end, doesn't have high level athleticism for the position ala Maxey. Also hasn't shown any real passing instincts.

Probably like a Seth Curry type of player. Best case is Donte Divincenzo with less bounce. Which is alright.

[76ciology]

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[76ciology]

Ware is the perfect draft pick for me at 16th, and it would be intriguing to pair him with Embiid.

Defensively, his 16% TRB is very good, as is his 7.3% BLK. I'd like to have him as the roamer, and this would be much more effective if we can add Paul George at the 3 and have a healthy Melton at the 2, or even possibly trade for Caruso.

Offensively, he can play a lot of spot-up roles when Embiid is on the floor with his 38% 3PT, then serve as a roll man and have post-up opportunities when Embiid is off the floor.

Imagine Paul George playing a role similar to Derrick Jones with Ware in a role similar to Lively for the Mavs. They would be perfect additions with their length, athleticism, activity, shooting, and ability to play the two-man game with Maxey.

And if George can’t be signed, we can settle for maybe Butler who can also compliment Ware and Oubre at the 3&4 positions.

[Kobblehead]

Paul George played 86% of his minutes at PF this year. Jimmy Butler played 74% of his minutes at PF this year. Whoever Morey brings in at the end of his "star hunt" will be the PF. I don't think it would be a good idea to use the 1st round pick on Embiid's backup.

[Jailblazers7]

The more time I spend looking at prospects the more I like Jaylon Tyson for us. I think he’d be an excellent fit next to Maxey as a big guard with upside as a scorer/playmaker.

[mjkvol]

Ware is the perfect draft pick for me at 16th, and it would be intriguing to pair him with Embiid.

Defensively, his 16% TRB is very good, as is his 7.3% BLK. I'd like to have him as the roamer, and this would be much more effective if we can add Paul George at the 3 and have a healthy Melton at the 2, or even possibly trade for Caruso.

Offensively, he can play a lot of spot-up roles when Embiid is on the floor with his 38% 3PT, then serve as a roll man and have post-up opportunities when Embiid is off the floor.

Imagine Paul George playing a role similar to Derrick Jones with Ware in a role similar to Lively for the Mavs. They would be perfect additions with their length, athleticism, activity, shooting, and ability to play the two-man game with Maxey.

And if George can’t be signed, we can settle for maybe Butler who can also compliment Ware and Oubre at the 3&4 positions.

And wow, was last night a brilliant example of a rookie (Lively) having a huge impact on the biggest stage and the most important game of the Mavs' season to date. Hope Morey is watching carefully.

[Negrodamus]

Carter and Ware feel like the best path towards stardom at our spot. If Carter is not there, I’m definitely taking Ware to back up Embiid. If he can provide great minutes next year, then he fills probably the biggest hole we had this year and years past: surviving non-Embiid minutes.

[Arsenal]

Ware is the perfect draft pick for me at 16th, and it would be intriguing to pair him with Embiid.

Defensively, his 16% TRB is very good, as is his 7.3% BLK. I'd like to have him as the roamer, and this would be much more effective if we can add Paul George at the 3 and have a healthy Melton at the 2, or even possibly trade for Caruso.

Offensively, he can play a lot of spot-up roles when Embiid is on the floor with his 38% 3PT, then serve as a roll man and have post-up opportunities when Embiid is off the floor.

Imagine Paul George playing a role similar to Derrick Jones with Ware in a role similar to Lively for the Mavs. They would be perfect additions with their length, athleticism, activity, shooting, and ability to play the two-man game with Maxey.

And if George can’t be signed, we can settle for maybe Butler who can also compliment Ware and Oubre at the 3&4 positions.

Ware's statistical indicators for shooting are poor: 63.4% FT and a paltry 12.5% 3PAr, both of which are much more important than 3P% on super low volume.

Which is why Tankathon projects him as a 32.4% 3PT shooter in the NBA. Basically a nonshooter. Which makes him just a backup center and not a good fit playing together with Embiid.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/kel-el-ware

However if he can be a good/great backup to Embiid so we don't get crushed in the non-Embiid mins, that has value.

[Arsenal]

Why is Kel'el Ware a better fit at PF than Da'Ron Holmes would be next to Embiid? Someone explain it to me since I hardly ever watch college ball and Holmes' statistical profile is far superior. Is it because Ware is more mobile and switchable on D and therefore better able to defend the perimeter as a PF?

Holmes' numbers this year were off the charts good. Granted Holmes is 2 years older.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/kel-el-ware

https://www.tankathon.com/players/daron-holmes-ii

[Arsenal]

I'm rolling the dice on Tidjane Salaun if he drops to our pick at #!6. Home run swing for an athletic / switchable 3&D wing who is still only 18 but has a man's body.

[Kobblehead]

Originally expected to be a one-and-done at Oregon, Kel’el Ware fell out of favor with the Ducks and was maddeningly inconsistent.

His talent is evident, but he’ll have to overcome his reputation for occasional loafing.

Ware’s athleticism, shot blocking, and floor spacing intrigue NBA teams for his size, while his inconsistent motor and toughness have been questioned the most.

Kel'el Ware has super high bust potential. He's talented, but it's pretty clear he might not having what it takes from the neck-up. Sounds like another Christian Wood.

[stormi]

The more time I spend looking at prospects the more I like Jaylon Tyson for us. I think he’d be an excellent fit next to Maxey as a big guard with upside as a scorer/playmaker.

Wouldn't blink if we selected him at 16.

[Kobblehead]

I'm rolling the dice on Tidjane Salaun if he drops to our pick at #!6. Home run swing for an athletic / switchable 3&D wing who is still only 18 but has a man's body.

He'd be an intriguing pick, but rumors are he doesn't get passed San Antonio at #8.

[Negrodamus]

Why is Kel'el Ware a better fit at PF than Da'Ron Holmes would be next to Embiid? Someone explain it to me since I hardly ever watch college ball and Holmes' statistical profile is far superior. Is it because Ware is more mobile and switchable on D and therefore better able to defend the perimeter as a PF?

Holmes' numbers this year were off the charts good. Granted Holmes is 2 years older.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/kel-el-ware

https://www.tankathon.com/players/daron-holmes-ii

I don’t know if I’d take either with the intention of being a PF. With big men, however, I feel like it’s way more of an eye test thing than stats since prospects vary so much in their stats. Like the teams were having Edey and Clingan launch threes off in the combine to see if it’ll ever be possible, lol.

I see Ke’lel cramming over dudes heads on alley oops and he has the frame to put on more muscle. Looks in the mold of Mobley and Jaren Jackson.

Is it possible he busts? Of course. But this draft is such ass that I’m willing to take that chance on a guy who has star traits over a guy who has a ceiling of a role player.

[Jailblazers7]

Carter and Ware feel like the best path towards stardom at our spot. If Carter is not there, I’m definitely taking Ware to back up Embiid. If he can provide great minutes next year, then he fills probably the biggest hole we had this year and years past: surviving non-Embiid minutes.

I like the idea but I’m not even considering it a possibility because Morey has been so openly against investing in an Embiid backup. I just can’t see him spending a borderline lotto pick on it.

[Stanford]

I don't think we're keeping this pick, guys

[Iverson Armband]

I don't think we're keeping this pick, guys

Yup, Morey taking the easy way out.