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76ciology wrote:

Arsenal wrote:

sixers4real wrote:Let’s imagine a scenario where we sign Siakam for max and re-sign Maxey for max.

What happens with our cap space?
We can only sign minimums with two exceptions?
For how much can we resign Oubre?

I believe we start with $67m in open cap space with Embiid + Maxey cap hold + 1st rounder cap hold.

Sign Siakam to MAX of $42m, leaves $26m of open cap left (after adding back $1m empty roster cap hold).

That should be enough to sign two more starters with the rest of the cap room (e.g. Oubre for $10m and another guy for $18m after add back two more open roster holds of $1m each).

Then sign a 6th man with the Room Exception (Hield? Another shooter?).

That gives us 7 guys: Embiid, Maxey, 1st rounder, Siakam, Two more starters, 6th man

Also include Ricky Council who is basically a min so that makes 8 guys.

Then I assume we sign 5 vet mins to complete the roster (hopefully Lowry comes back and Batum if we're lucky).

Last move is MAXing out Maxey after all other moves are completed.

The team would be short on depth to begin with. But once the season starts and newly signed contracts are tradable, we can package players and picks to build depth.

Then the following summer we should have exceptions available to continue building the roster.

Depth is easy to take care off. The important for me is finding the perfect guy for both Maxey and Embiid.

Im open to anyone, including adding Hartenstein or Jalen Smith, but its just I think Siakam is the best fit for now.

76ciology wrote:I don't see Morey betting on a guy who theoretically could break out; it's more likely going to be someone who's battle-tested. We need someone proven because the window closes by 2026 or 2027. This team doesn't have time to wait and take such a theoretical risk.

I think both Siakam or Paul George can still be good to very good from day 1 to year 2 or 3.

Embiid P wrote:

76ciology wrote:I don't see Morey betting on a guy who theoretically could break out; it's more likely going to be someone who's battle-tested. We need someone proven because the window closes by 2026 or 2027. This team doesn't have time to wait and take such a theoretical risk.

I think both Siakam or Paul George can still be good to very good from day 1 to year 2 or 3.

And both will start to decline very soon if they aren't already. I really don't want to go the Harden/Webber 2.0 route since it seems like trading for older stars never pans out for us. My dream scenario is if someone younger like Booker, Luka or LaMelo becomes available but it's extremely unlikely that any will become available. Hence why it is best IMO to take a risk on an unproven young player with potential.

sixers4real wrote:

Embiid P wrote:

76ciology wrote:I don't see Morey betting on a guy who theoretically could break out; it's more likely going to be someone who's battle-tested. We need someone proven because the window closes by 2026 or 2027. This team doesn't have time to wait and take such a theoretical risk.

I think both Siakam or Paul George can still be good to very good from day 1 to year 2 or 3.

And both will start to decline very soon if they aren't already. I really don't want to go the Harden/Webber 2.0 route since it seems like trading for older stars never pans out for us. My dream scenario is if someone younger like Booker, Luka or LaMelo becomes available but it's extremely unlikely that any will become available. Hence why it is best IMO to take a risk on an unproven young player with potential.

What’s your scenario when we don’t get Luka, Booker or LaMelo?

76ciology wrote:

sixers4real wrote:

Embiid P wrote:
And both will start to decline very soon if they aren't already. I really don't want to go the Harden/Webber 2.0 route since it seems like trading for older stars never pans out for us. My dream scenario is if someone younger like Booker, Luka or LaMelo becomes available but it's extremely unlikely that any will become available. Hence why it is best IMO to take a risk on an unproven young player with potential.

What’s your scenario when we don’t get Luka, Booker or LaMelo?

Maybe Bronny James

Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter

We're probably not a threat to get Ingram tbh.

sixers4real wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter

We're probably not a threat to get Ingram tbh.

Am I the only one who’s heard “we’ve head enough (of Ingram)”

Negrodamus wrote:

sixers4real wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter

We're probably not a threat to get Ingram tbh.

Am I the only one who’s heard “we’ve head enough (of Ingram)”

Yea, but they probably want something for him, not picks. I mean, have they even finished with the picks they got from the Anthony Davis trade yet?

sixers4real wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

sixers4real wrote:Am I the only one who’s heard “we’ve head enough (of Ingram)”

Yea, but they probably want something for him, not picks. I mean, have they even finished with the picks they got from the Anthony Davis trade yet?

Fair enough. You’re right

Negrodamus wrote:

sixers4real wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:
Yea, but they probably want something for him, not picks. I mean, have they even finished with the picks they got from the Anthony Davis trade yet?

Fair enough. You’re right

But now that I think about it, a 3-way trade of Trae Young, Brandon Ingram, and Sixers/Pelican picks would work around draft time. The valuation would need to be worked out. I'm not sure if the Hawks are ready to give up on the Trae Young experiment (or if Trae is done with it), but he's another guy who would benefit greatly from having Zion as his runningmate.

Embiid P wrote:

Negrodamus wrote:

sixers4real wrote:Fair enough. You’re right

But now that I think about it, a 3-way trade of Trae Young, Brandon Ingram, and Sixers/Pelican picks would work around draft time. The valuation would need to be worked out. I'm not sure if the Hawks are ready to give up on the Trae Young experiment (or if Trae is done with it), but he's another guy who would benefit greatly from having Zion as his runningmate.

TBH I would rather take a chance on a youngish semi-star like Ingram than an older star like PG13 or Siakam. That said, I don't think the Pelicans are ready to blow it up yet. Definitely don't want Trae Young who'd be a horrible fit next to Maxey.

Ferry Avenue wrote:

mjkvol wrote:

eyeatoma wrote:We need more people to report them.

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They aren't going to be removed because they don't break any forum 'rules', so to speak, so reporting them is pointless. Ignore trolls and they generally disappear once they aren't getting the rise they live for. The Embiid thread has become a troll-athon between the two of them. Let that be their only discourse.

Don't flatter yourself. I couldn't care less about any "rise" any of you all have here. I respectfully post what I want as means of expressing myself and my thoughts about the team. "You" are not a part of that equation, despite that you apparently desperately want to believe you are.

mjkvol wrote:

Ferry Avenue wrote:

mjkvol wrote:
They aren't going to be removed because they don't break any forum 'rules', so to speak, so reporting them is pointless. Ignore trolls and they generally disappear once they aren't getting the rise they live for. The Embiid thread has become a troll-athon between the two of them. Let that be their only discourse.

Don't flatter yourself. I couldn't care less about any "rise" any of you all have here. I respectfully post what I want as means of expressing myself and my thoughts about the team. "You" are not a part of that equation, despite that you apparently desperately want to believe you are.

At least in responding to that post you have accepted the fact that you indeed are a troll. Acceptance is the first stage of recovery. Best of luck with your journey back to normalcy.

ankle420breaker wrote:

youngcrev wrote:

ankle420breaker wrote:We'd regret that. Paul George isn't moving the needle at this point in his career and he'd just end up being an aging albatross that we're stuck with.

Embiid will be older and ringless with even more health/toughness concerns in two years and we'll wish we cashed out on him now. Any competent organization would recognize that trading him should be a priority this summer.

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How is Paul George not a needle a mover?

In that he doesn't make us better than Boston.... arguably not better than NY either. Too risky if it means committing to a long-term deal for an aging star on the other side of his prime.

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