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Re: Cavaliers vs Magic Series General Discussion Thread 

Post#481 » by KillMonger » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:39 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Not many things to complain about on Game 3 but I really didn't like we did an all bench lineup in first half.

It didnt bite us but it shouldnt happen. We have to be the only teak doing this.

we are the only team doing an all bench lineup....every other team has at least one of their star players on the court at all times....what i don't get is that staggering isn't a hard decision and in fact it's probably what we should be doing because before last night with that lineup you never really knew where the offense was coming from.....cole couldn't be counted on, fultz is always a negative offensively, Ingles has been meh at best for a while now, JI has been good defensively but offensively he can be hit or miss and the same thing with moe...it wouldn't hurt to take either fultz out or ingles out and insert franz with that lineup so that cole isn't the only guy we can count on offensively....however since we blew them out it didn't hurt us and until it does again i don't think mose will make any changes to that....he'll ride and ultimately die with the "all bench" lineup
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Post#482 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:52 pm

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DiplomaticMagic wrote:Not many things to complain about on Game 3 but I really didn't like we did an all bench lineup in first half.

It didnt bite us but it shouldnt happen. We have to be the only teak doing this.

we are the only team doing an all bench lineup....every other team has at least one of their star players on the court at all times....what i don't get is that staggering isn't a hard decision and in fact it's probably what we should be doing because before last night with that lineup you never really knew where the offense was coming from.....cole couldn't be counted on, fultz is always a negative offensively, Ingles has been meh at best for a while now, JI has been good defensively but offensively he can be hit or miss and the same thing with moe...it wouldn't hurt to take either fultz out or ingles out and insert franz with that lineup so that cole isn't the only guy we can count on offensively....however since we blew them out it didn't hurt us and until it does again i don't think mose will make any changes to that....he'll ride and ultimately die with the "all bench" lineup


Our bench players, while “good” can’t (individually) play without complementary players…they’re all one-way guys

Ingles, Mo, Cole, Houstan can’t play without defenders to help

Isaac, AB defend but will drag offense to a halt

Fultz & Okeke just can’t play

Their sum has been amazingly better than their parts all year.
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Re: Cavaliers vs Magic Series General Discussion Thread 

Post#483 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:07 pm

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DiplomaticMagic wrote:Not many things to complain about on Game 3 but I really didn't like we did an all bench lineup in first half.

It didnt bite us but it shouldnt happen. We have to be the only teak doing this.

we are the only team doing an all bench lineup....every other team has at least one of their star players on the court at all times....what i don't get is that staggering isn't a hard decision and in fact it's probably what we should be doing because before last night with that lineup you never really knew where the offense was coming from.....cole couldn't be counted on, fultz is always a negative offensively, Ingles has been meh at best for a while now, JI has been good defensively but offensively he can be hit or miss and the same thing with moe...it wouldn't hurt to take either fultz out or ingles out and insert franz with that lineup so that cole isn't the only guy we can count on offensively....however since we blew them out it didn't hurt us and until it does again i don't think mose will make any changes to that....he'll ride and ultimately die with the "all bench" lineup


Our bench players, while “good” can’t (individually) play without complementary players…they’re all one-way guys

Ingles, Mo, Cole, Houstan can’t play without defenders to help

Isaac, AB defend but will drag offense to a halt

Fultz & Okeke just can’t play

Their sum has been amazingly better than their parts all year.
AB has a higher ceiling than being a role player.
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Post#484 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 27, 2024 1:25 pm

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KillMonger wrote:we are the only team doing an all bench lineup....every other team has at least one of their star players on the court at all times....what i don't get is that staggering isn't a hard decision and in fact it's probably what we should be doing because before last night with that lineup you never really knew where the offense was coming from.....cole couldn't be counted on, fultz is always a negative offensively, Ingles has been meh at best for a while now, JI has been good defensively but offensively he can be hit or miss and the same thing with moe...it wouldn't hurt to take either fultz out or ingles out and insert franz with that lineup so that cole isn't the only guy we can count on offensively....however since we blew them out it didn't hurt us and until it does again i don't think mose will make any changes to that....he'll ride and ultimately die with the "all bench" lineup


Our bench players, while “good” can’t (individually) play without complementary players…they’re all one-way guys

Ingles, Mo, Cole, Houstan can’t play without defenders to help

Isaac, AB defend but will drag offense to a halt

Fultz & Okeke just can’t play

Their sum has been amazingly better than their parts all year.
AB has a higher ceiling than being a role player.


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Post#485 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:41 pm

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Our bench players, while “good” can’t (individually) play without complementary players…they’re all one-way guys

Ingles, Mo, Cole, Houstan can’t play without defenders to help

Isaac, AB defend but will drag offense to a halt

Fultz & Okeke just can’t play

Their sum has been amazingly better than their parts all year.
AB has a higher ceiling than being a role player.


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Re: Cavaliers vs Magic Series General Discussion Thread 

Post#486 » by KillMonger » Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:41 pm

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DiplomaticMagic wrote:Not many things to complain about on Game 3 but I really didn't like we did an all bench lineup in first half.

It didnt bite us but it shouldnt happen. We have to be the only teak doing this.

we are the only team doing an all bench lineup....every other team has at least one of their star players on the court at all times....what i don't get is that staggering isn't a hard decision and in fact it's probably what we should be doing because before last night with that lineup you never really knew where the offense was coming from.....cole couldn't be counted on, fultz is always a negative offensively, Ingles has been meh at best for a while now, JI has been good defensively but offensively he can be hit or miss and the same thing with moe...it wouldn't hurt to take either fultz out or ingles out and insert franz with that lineup so that cole isn't the only guy we can count on offensively....however since we blew them out it didn't hurt us and until it does again i don't think mose will make any changes to that....he'll ride and ultimately die with the "all bench" lineup


Our bench players, while “good” can’t (individually) play without complementary players…they’re all one-way guys

Ingles, Mo, Cole, Houstan can’t play without defenders to help

Isaac, AB defend but will drag offense to a halt

Fultz & Okeke just can’t play

Their sum has been amazingly better than their parts all year.
Not all year I'd say most of the year, the bench hasn't been great the last few weeks of the season and I didn't like going into the playoffs without a tweak.... The thing is we used to stagger in paolo's rookie year, we did it because of injuries but it worked quite well.... Paolo would be the hub of the offense with the starters and then Franz would be with the bench guys that way the offense didn't really fall off that bad

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Post#487 » by The-Stallion70 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:32 pm

I honestly, for the life of me, did not expect this ****. Taking them back home and blowing them out by 61 points in two games.

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Post#488 » by Residual-Heat » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:24 pm

Point Differential in the play offs

Minnesota 3-0, +54
Orl 2-2, +37
OKC 2-0, +34

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Post#490 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:26 pm

Must give props to Mosley with his adjustments during the series
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Post#491 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:29 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:I honestly, for the life of me, did not expect this ****. Taking them back home and blowing them out by 61 points in two games.

Wow


Not going to lie was not expecting this either. I was expecting a Cleveland sweep or Magic winning 1 game. But they may legit have a chance of winning this series.
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Post#492 » by Bensational » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:34 pm

Rainwater wrote:Most give props to Mosley with his adjustments during the series


Adjustments and sticking with his guys and giving them time to figure things out. I think our team has done really well responding and reacting to create better looks. We might be built for the post season more than we expected.
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Post#493 » by The-Stallion70 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:37 pm

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Rainwater wrote:Most give props to Mosley with his adjustments during the series


Adjustments and sticking with his guys and giving them time to figure things out. I think our team has done really well responding and reacting to create better looks. We might be built for the post season more than we expected.


I like when Moseley said that our team is a mentally strong group. I can see this and I believe they are on the way up because of it. We are not afraid of any team.
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Post#494 » by eyriq » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:38 pm

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Post#495 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:46 pm

Bensational wrote:
Rainwater wrote:Most give props to Mosley with his adjustments during the series


Adjustments and sticking with his guys and giving them time to figure things out. I think our team has done really well responding and reacting to create better looks. We might be built for the post season more than we expected.


Man, me and everyone else questioned the idea of playing the full bench but he stuck with his guys and it’s working.

Then there was the JI change in the starting unit, and there was the JI sub in to stop Levert in game two, having Franz playing more on ball when Paolo had many turnovers in this game.

I feel like Mosley gets blamed for things he can’t control like guys missing shots but he is a good coach.
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Post#496 » by RookieStar » Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:56 pm

Sooo... the Franz > Scottie debate came up just now and I wondered why lol
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Post#497 » by tooler » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:27 pm

RookieStar wrote:Sooo... the Franz > Scottie debate came up just now and I wondered why lol

I had almost forgotten about Scottie Barnes until someone decided to bring him up.
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Post#498 » by Residual-Heat » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:30 pm

after the first two games i saw a lot of raptors fans talking about how their core of IQ-Scottie-Barrett is better than the Magic's core

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Post#499 » by MasterGMer » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:39 pm

Franz needs to stay consistent. He is phenomenal in this series with his 3s. And he seems assertive today. He needs to keep doing that. We need him in Game 5 and we need Paolo to get going also. If so, we will be hard to beat
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Post#500 » by Message Boar » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:45 pm

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