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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:55 pm
by oshmeehan
Chuck Diesel wrote:Barcelona would be idiotic to part ways with Ersan at this point. He's playing fantastic down the stretch.


Its a shame he doesn't get the ball a little more often. I watched the entire game the other day Live and there were times he was wide open and his teammates just didn't find him for whatever reason. You could see Ersan being frustrated sometimes by it with his reactions.

It really seems like there is no offensive system in place for Barcelona or for any other team for that matter in Europe. Just seems like a pick-up basketball game at times where everyone tries to take their own man or just jacks 3-pointers.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:59 pm
by fam3381
Osh, did you watch it on sopcast or something?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:33 pm
by oshmeehan
fam3381 wrote:Osh, did you watch it on sopcast or something?


Not sure if it was sopcast or what it is

I got a direct link to the feed off of the Interbasket Forum website (which I know Chuck Diesel visits frequently as well).

But yeah, the link loaded up right away and it was broadcast in real-time with no delay. Didn't have any problems with the feed what-so-ever.

Only thing that sucked was it was in Spanish of course and they must not have any pregame, postgame, or halftime what-so-ever either. You never even saw the announcers or knew their names. At least they show all the stats and the score like a normal NBA game.

I believe the TV station it was on was Canal 33. When Barcelona's next game is I'll post the link here if it is on that station.

They next play on Thursday, Saturday, then if necessary on Monday. I don't think though that they will win this series as they only have 1 home game out of the 3 and they'll be playing DKV Jovenaut, which is Rudy Fernandez and Ricky Rubio's team, as well as Jerome Moiso and get this, DAVID NOEL!

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:37 pm
by fam3381
Oh wow, I didn't realize Noel ended up in Spain (I thought Benneton in Ital). Joventut is definitely stacked.

For those of you curious, Noel has gotten limited PT since he signed five games ago. He did have eight points in their last playoff game.

http://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php?co ... edicion=52

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:43 pm
by oshmeehan
fam3381 wrote:Oh wow, I didn't realize Noel ended up in Spain (I thought Benneton in Ital). Joventut is definitely stacked.

For those of you curious, Noel has gotten limited PT since he signed five games ago. He did have eight points in their last playoff game.

http://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php?co ... edicion=52


Yeah haha its a Milwaukee Bucks wasteland over there....these former Bucks from the past few years are all playing over in Europe

Ersan Ilyasova
Lynn Greer
David Noel
Marcus Fizer
Jiri Welsch
Marcus Haislip
Daniel Santiago

Welsch, Haislip, and Santiago are actually all on the same team, Unicaja

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:02 pm
by Whiteman
oshmeehan wrote:Welsch, Haislip, and Santiago are actually all on the same team, Unicaja

Do you know if Unicaja is scouting Yi already? :wink:

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:06 am
by Chuck Diesel
oshmeehan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Not sure if it was sopcast or what it is

I got a direct link to the feed off of the Interbasket Forum website (which I know Chuck Diesel visits frequently as well).

!


What's your name over there? You've gotta back me up next time that greek kid starts talking nonsense :wink:

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:26 am
by Chuck Diesel
oshmeehan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Its a shame he doesn't get the ball a little more often. I watched the entire game the other day Live and there were times he was wide open and his teammates just didn't find him for whatever reason. You could see Ersan being frustrated sometimes by it with his reactions.

It really seems like there is no offensive system in place for Barcelona or for any other team for that matter in Europe. Just seems like a pick-up basketball game at times where everyone tries to take their own man or just jacks 3-pointers.


When Jaka Lakovic is running point. That guy makes Mo Williams look like Magic Johnson. I've never seen a guy take (and miss) as many threes as Lakovic does during the course of the game. 71/201 from behind the arc for c this season. Look at some of these game lines- 2-11, 0-5, 0-5, 1-7. The offense runs much better when Pepe Sanchez is controlling the ball and Lakovic is at the two.


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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:53 pm
by fam3381
The Spanish finals start today.

http://www.brewhoop.com/2008/5/29/54184 ... ish-finals

Barcelona was down big early but are within 4 early in the third. Ersan's again filling up the box score with 17/8 right now...4/7 from two and 3/4 from distance.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:19 pm
by fam3381
Barca lost but Ersan had another big game finishing with 21/10 in 34 minutes.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:45 pm
by EastSideBucksFan
Thanks for the updates fam.

Is Ersan going to come back and look to get minutes at the 3 or will he be more of a 4?

Any idea on his body (weight, strength, quickness) and what position he would be suited best at?

(Sorry if I missed an earlier response)

What I'm wondering is if he is going to get minutes at the 3, then Mase or Simmons has to go pretty much. If he's going to get minutes at the 4, then I am very nervous about our PF rotation for next year.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:56 pm
by MickeyDavis
I hope he gives us another shot. He's young and cheap, certainly worth another look.

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:04 pm
by oshmeehan
EastSideBucksFan wrote:Thanks for the updates fam.

Is Ersan going to come back and look to get minutes at the 3 or will he be more of a 4?

Any idea on his body (weight, strength, quickness) and what position he would be suited best at?

(Sorry if I missed an earlier response)

What I'm wondering is if he is going to get minutes at the 3, then Mase or Simmons has to go pretty much. If he's going to get minutes at the 4, then I am very nervous about our PF rotation for next year.


Maybe you saw the video link in another thread, but here are highlights to his 16 point 14 rebound game in Game 1 of the previous round. This should give a good idea on his body appearance and quickness and such.

http://acbtv.acb.com/video/669

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:40 pm
by bango_the_buck
EastSideBucksFan wrote:Is Ersan going to come back and look to get minutes at the 3 or will he be more of a 4?


I never understood LH's insistence that Ersan was a 4. Sure, he can play the 4, but I see him playing more of the 3 for us next year (assuming that a) he comes back and b) he gets playing time). I keep going back to the Tayshaun Prince comparison (or, to a lesser extent, Andrei Kirilenko)...

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:22 am
by Nowak008
fam3381 wrote:Barca lost but Ersan had another big game finishing with 21/10 in 34 minutes.




Nowak008 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Pretty impressive. I would still rather have the rights to Ersan then Ryan Gomes.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:45 am
by Buck You
bango_the_buck wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I never understood LH's insistence that Ersan was a 4. Sure, he can play the 4, but I see him playing more of the 3 for us next year (assuming that a) he comes back and b) he get playing time). I keep going back to the Tayshaun Prince comparison (or, to a lesser extent, Andrei Kirilenko)...

:) We need that kind of player badly. Ersan would be a steal if he turned out to be Andrei or Tayshaun.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:50 am
by LUKE23
So is this kid going to be a Buck next year or not?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:44 am
by carmelbrownqueen
Sounds like he doesn't want to come back ust to waste away on the bench, so if he could get some consistent playing time I think he would come back.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:48 am
by oshmeehan
Game 2 is tomorrow (Saturday) at 1:00 PM Milwaukee time.

I decided to purchase watching the game online for $4.50. Turns out that I can watch all the games til June 14th (though the last possible game for the Finals would be on June 6th). But pretty good deal IMO of only $4.50 to watch all of the remaining Finals games.

I did this last month thru their website and it works out pretty well with the live feed of the video. If anyone is interested I provided the link where you sign up. It is mainly in Spanish but I don't speak a lick of Spanish and was able to figure it out

http://www.acblive.tv/page/Home/0,,12564,00.html

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:20 pm
by oshmeehan
Barca down 20-16 after the 1st quarter

Ersan with 7 points and 4 boards so far

He seems to be the only one on the team that actually knows how to play basketball and not to just play one-on-one and chuck shots up