NightWatch wrote:greg4012 wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:
I won't correlate Minny and Miami in this example way too different. Both Kat and Gobert are 7 footers one is an actual scorer. Also we don't have the equivalency of Anthony Edwards, or to lesser degree McDaniel's as a top tier wing defender.
The equivalency here is that Bam is the Gobert of this example, and we don't have a Kat version next to him, but in the end Bam is still 6'-9". Were also missing Anthony Edwards, you won't find that guy outside of the top 10 pick in a draft we won't find ourselves in. Also McDaniel's is 3x better than his comp on our team in Haywood Highsmith. Were a bit flawed as a team, were a couple missing pieces to get there I think were 3 key pieces away, 1 superstar, 1 premier all world 3&D player wing, 1 top 20 league big next to Bam.
Bam is also a better defender for the playoff game than Gobert. Gobert being buttressed with all the right defenders in Minny in the early playoff rounds and being solid so far doesn't change that.
The fascination with Bam's size among Heat fans still blows my mind. He's 6'9 without shoes. Gobert is surrounded by plus defenders and Towns--who is long and mediocre as a defender. Minny has done a great job of getting 2-way players across the board. Celtics, Thunder, Nuggets and even the Knicks have done the same.
Ice cold; is not jovic what are we hoping to elevate his game to the next level next to Bam? I acknowledged that JOvic is a far away from being a really consistent productive player but I wonder if Heat fans have already thrown in the towel on Jovic? Honestly, i don’t even know how good he is going to be? The only person knows that is Jovic himself, unfortunately. I am watching
Wolves vs Nuggets now.
I don't see Jovic in the mold of Kat that's not his archetype his more of a point forward, someone who can get you into sets, and give you relief buckets from the three, and potentially a great fast break player coming off a rebound that could push your pace a bit, him and Bam have some overlap in certain things, we keep finding these guys that while they do things well, tend to overlap in the things they excel in and the things they don't their not great at. Take for example, Jimmy and Bam, great two way players, that occupy that elbow and neither are great volume three point shooters although we need one of them to be. Take for example Bam and Jovic, both bigs that are great in transition, both great catching the defender on their heel using long strides of a pump fake, both can get their team into offensive sets in the half court. Neither one is a volume scorer who can get up points quickly and with dominance or be post up scorers. We have a bunch of great wing defenders (Caleb, Highsmith), but none of them have functional size, or dominant athletism to overcome their limitations, outside of Caleb who is better at driving to the basket, everyone else has clumsy dribbles. Jacquez is the only one on the team that has a very different archetype, good post moves, good handles, mediocre jump shooting but could polish that a bit, and a decent first step of a pump fake, but does not do anything extraordinary, ie jack of all trades master of none. Tyler and Rozier have giant overlaps, neither play defense, one lacks in wingspan and vertical leap and gets stuffed at the rim often, the other lacks functional size its like a miniature version that happens to have a quicker for step and finds himself engulfed by trees under the basket too often, their both super streaky and can't be counted every game for every good game theyll throw bunch of duds and also as many points as they score theyll allow on the other end.
To me this is the biggest hurdle, getting some of the overlap replaced with functional size, and actual length, speed, vertical leaping ability, guys who can get to the basket and score easily or stop others from scoring easily. We don't posses a slasher type archetype preferably that isn't smaller than 6'-4" could be either a SG or SF that would open up and carve the defense up and give us easy opportunities by collapsing the defense.
way too much overlap on this team, like at all levels, sure it makes Spo be able to plug one guy here and there without missing a beat since they all do the same crap but we don't end up doing nothing elite at any one thing.
