Colbinii wrote:SkyHook wrote:Colbinii wrote:
Bradley Beal?
LaVine is an all-star. No team would trade LaVine straight up for Collins.
Two years ago, as was Wiggins. No rational person would call either of them all-stars anymore. I’m not saying that Collins is either, but he gave FAR better bang for the buck than those two did this season.
I'm not sure why people view these players this way.
1) LaVine is significantly more talented
2) LaVine is significantly better
3) Last year LaVine put up 25/5/5 on +80 TS% in 77 games. This is an all-star level player, last year.
The idea that Collins has more value than LaVine is a massive red flag for player evaluation. No team in their right mind goes "Man, this LaVine guy had surgery this year but over the past 3 seasons was at 3.7 OBPM and +340 TS+ yet is less valuable than Collins.
Like come on. LaVine when healthy [which he has been for literally 5 of the past 6 seasons] is 10x the player Collins is.
1. Disagree
2. Disagree
3. Lavine’s TS% is perpetually lower than that of Collins.
Despite playing three more seasons and 50% more minutes, Zach’s career WS (a cumulative metric) is lower than John’s. Maybe Zach becomes an all-star again, but I wouldn’t wager a single penny on it. Maybe he’ll be mediocre at best after the foot surgery. Maybe he’s permanently regressed to the mediocre player he was before a couple of solid seasons. I’m far more comfortable with a $53MM commitment Collins than a $138MM gamble on a Lavine return to all-star form.