Game 51 Warriors at Jazz 6pm PST

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Kuminga was a minus 4 and I am not sure why.

Off game from him. Jazz played him for the drive and had the players to contest at the rim. He will see them again in a few days and that will be good for him.

I think I figured it out. Kuminga’s minus 4 came from the start of the 2nd quarter when the Jazz temporarily beat the unit of Saric, Kuminga, Klay, Quinones and Podz.

The Kuminga did not do enough to overcome the bad plus minus from the start of the 2nd qurter. Klay got back to slightly positive and Podz got back to positive but the start the 2nd quarter left Kuminga, Saric and Quinones in a plus minus hole that they could not climb out of.

[Onus]

Clippers getting blown out at home. Going to come to the bay angry and focused.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Clippers getting blown out at home. Going to come to the bay angry and focused.

Warriors are pretty focussed and energized lately and playing at home.
I think the Warriors will be more up to beat the Clippers than the Clippers will be up to beat the Warriors.

I am more worried about our back to back game back in Utah the night after the Clippers game. The Jazz should be motivated to beat us.

It will also be a back to back game for the the Jazz but the Jazz will have this game, Lakers and then Warriors again all at home. I hope the Lakers circus can make the Jazz forget about the Warriors kicking their ass tonight.

[Romulus]

I'm shocked, totally shocked, by how well TJD plays and his lack of opportunities to do so. He changed the game when he came in.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Kuminga was a minus 4 and I am not sure why.

Off game from him. Jazz played him for the drive and had the players to contest at the rim. He will see them again in a few days and that will be good for him.

I think I figured it out. Kuminga’s minus 4 came from the start of the 2nd quarter when the Jazz temporarily beat the unit of Saric, Kuminga, Klay, Quinones and Podz.

The Kuminga did not do enough to overcome the bad plus minus from the start of the 2nd qurter. Klay got back to slightly positive and Podz got back to positive but the start the 2nd quarter left Kuminga, Saric and Quinones in a plus minus hole that they could not climb out of.

Only reason klay wasn't in the minus was because he played a few minutes in the 4th while jk didn't. Both guys were minus for most of the game.

[Romulus]

Moody 0-8 in 9 minutes... and people want this dude starting?

yes, because he can actually play D.

Exactly. He's forcing his shot and he's rusty, but we all know he can shoot. He came in and played good defense.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

I'm shocked, totally shocked, by how well TJD plays and his lack of opportunities to do so. He changed the game when he came in.

When we first started playing TDJ he was a beast. When was that, late November early December?
Then TDJ’s energy fell off and his godly stats slid down to good but not special.

TDJ got some DNPs and I guess he got his energy back.

Adding up his las 5 games:
31 total minutes
24 points
10 for 13 FG shooting
16 rebounds, 7 offensive rebounds
3 blocks
2 assists
3 turnovers
6 fouls
Plus 22

Nice stat line for a game.
It is 5 games added together.

[CDM_Stats]

We really got a shot. We just need to not play a no defense lineup. It’s all going to come down to Steve.

they should've trade for markkanen, a steph-wiggins-markkanen-kuminga-dray could win it all this year.

Laurie is one of the most overrated players in the entire league. There's a reason why he's always in trade rumours and no team has built around him.

He was way underrated to start so I think the pendulum has swung back.. but think he’s closer to one of those pure scorer types that can’t be a top 2 scorer on a winner. An ideal 3rd

His defense gets overrated because he’s had shot erasers behind him lately. And he’s going to get a max.. think that’s why Ainge is making him available. Good enough to keep them around the play in, not good enough to be one of *the* guys

[CDM_Stats]

Moody 0-8 in 9 minutes... and people want this dude starting?

yes, because he can actually play D.

Exactly. He's forcing his shot and he's rusty, but we all know he can shoot. He came in and played good defense.

I don’t know that

I know he can shoot pretty solid when he’s a significant part of the offense.. but he’s not going to get even close to that here

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

yes, because he can actually play D.

Exactly. He's forcing his shot and he's rusty, but we all know he can shoot. He came in and played good defense.

I don’t know that

I know he can shoot pretty solid when he’s a significant part of the offense.. but he’s not going to get even close to that here

You might put up a few extra shots to compesate for the missed games.
Moody overall has been an efficient shooter taking what is given too him.

I don’t want Moody forcing shots. I don’t think Moody can be a volume scorer at this phase of his carrer. If he tries to be a volume scorer he won’t be efficient but he is efficient if he only shoots open shots.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Moody was going for it. I can't blame him. Nothing to lose. Hit or miss, he is still getting a dnp next game.

Problem is that he's just not natural scorer, it isn't his strength. His value is being a cog in a system with 2 way play. Too bad the coaching staff doesnt value it.

[B-King]

I love that Curry wanted Klay to shoot that last 3!

Every time I see your Avatar photo I forget what I was thinking and start thinking to look at porn.
Then I remember that porn sucks. They can’t act and your Avatar photo looks better than the porn girls.

With the way the Dubs were playing earlier, porn was a better option. Regardless if the acting was good or bad acting.

[SpreeS]

I cant imagine how Davis and Moody cant get more minutes over Saric and Lester...You dont need to be BB genius to see it. How f... Saric gets more time than Looney and Davis

vs UTA

Saric 11:36 -4
Davis 9:13 +14
Looney 10:59 +6

vs PHO

Saric 10:33 -10
Davis 5:26 +4
Looney 5:24 +1

Saric in last 18 games was positive only in 4

12/26 - 02/12

Saric 18.1min -4.4 125.9drtg -12.6nrtg
Davis 15.5min -1.1 117.6drtg -1.0nrtg
Looney 14.1min -1.4 124.8drtg -3.4nrtg

[DonaldSanders]

Great team win tonight, you love to see it! Defense continues to look better, despite some lowlights from a few of the usual suspects.

[watch1958]

Moody 0-8 in 9 minutes... and people want this dude starting?

yes, because he can actually play D.

Exactly. He's forcing his shot and he's rusty, but we all know he can shoot. He came in and played good defense.

Big J is never wrong. He's a basketball Jenius.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Exactly. He's forcing his shot and he's rusty, but we all know he can shoot. He came in and played good defense.

I don’t know that

I know he can shoot pretty solid when he’s a significant part of the offense.. but he’s not going to get even close to that here

You might put up a few extra shots to compesate for the missed games.
Moody overall has been an efficient shooter taking what is given too him.

I don’t want Moody forcing shots. I don’t think Moody can be a volume scorer at this phase of his carrer. If he tries to be a volume scorer he won’t be efficient but he is efficient if he only shoots open shots.

He should learn to play like Iguodala. That’s his way forward. He’s not going to make his money scoring points. He should be doing what Podz is doing, trying to be a playmaker first then looking to score. If he tries to get minutes by scoring. Good luck with that. There’s a long list ahead of him. There is a shorter list on the team that rebounds, plays defense, and sets other people up.

[Jerry Maine]

I don’t know that

I know he can shoot pretty solid when he’s a significant part of the offense.. but he’s not going to get even close to that here

You might put up a few extra shots to compesate for the missed games.
Moody overall has been an efficient shooter taking what is given too him.

I don’t want Moody forcing shots. I don’t think Moody can be a volume scorer at this phase of his carrer. If he tries to be a volume scorer he won’t be efficient but he is efficient if he only shoots open shots.

He should learn to play like Iguodala. That’s his way forward. He’s not going to make his money scoring points. He should be doing what Podz is doing, trying to be a playmaker first then looking to score. If he tries to get minutes by scoring. Good luck with that. There’s a long list ahead of him. There is a shorter list on the team that rebounds, plays defense, and sets other people up.

Agree, he's a utility. Iggy was a prime utility. Moody has a great motor but not Iguodala's athleticism or talent, but a good role to strive for so as to be due playing time. I like him on the team, but he's got a lot of bodies in front of him, not just Klay on a bad night. At this stage he's behind everyone but Jerome.

[Onus]

they should've trade for markkanen, a steph-wiggins-markkanen-kuminga-dray could win it all this year.

Laurie is one of the most overrated players in the entire league. There's a reason why he's always in trade rumours and no team has built around him.

He was way underrated to start so I think the pendulum has swung back.. but think he’s closer to one of those pure scorer types that can’t be a top 2 scorer on a winner. An ideal 3rd

His defense gets overrated because he’s had shot erasers behind him lately. And he’s going to get a max.. think that’s why Ainge is making him available. Good enough to keep them around the play in, not good enough to be one of *the* guys

Lauri isn't a 1st option. But I think he'd be an elite 2nd option if they actually run more action through him or at least involve him. The offense currently revolves around Sexton, Clarkson, George, THT isoing and not getting help because Lauri is a sniper. He's rarely even in any actions.

They weren't even starting Kessler for a long time so he didn't have that backline defense behind him for a majority of this year. He was the backline defense while starting.

[Onus]

I cant imagine how Davis and Moody cant get more minutes over Saric and Lester...You dont need to be BB genius to see it. How f... Saric gets more time than Looney and Davis

vs UTA

Saric 11:36 -4
Davis 9:13 +14
Looney 10:59 +6

vs PHO

Saric 10:33 -10
Davis 5:26 +4
Looney 5:24 +1

Saric in last 18 games was positive only in 4

12/26 - 02/12

Saric 18.1min -4.4 125.9drtg -12.6nrtg
Davis 15.5min -1.1 117.6drtg -1.0nrtg
Looney 14.1min -1.4 124.8drtg -3.4nrtg

I get the Saric thing. He signed here for the vet min, we have to find ways to give him playing time and be able to showcase what he can do. Can't just bury him otherwise the next FA we need to sign at the vet min isn't going to come here and point to Saric as why.

[TB]

I saw a lot of mentality growth in Kuminga during this game. Throughout his young career when he has had bad moments he compounds that into bad effort plays, more mistakes, taking jumpers, etc.

This game, he really struggled with their rim protection, understandably. And even though he complained and let it out on the refs, he really kept up his effort, defensive engagement, aggressive offense, and team/bench interaction. Bad game and still got us 14 points in 27 minutes. Lets see if he's grown enough to not let this one effect his confidence and come out playing the same aggressive style next game.