Re: Around the NBA V: Live and Let Die
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 7:11 pm
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wco81 wrote:That might be great for parity and preventing dynasties. It's also great for owners as it keeps overall salaries down. What is baffling is why the players went along with it, including cap smoothing to prevent cap spikes, despite any big increases in revenues.
For instance if the NBA gets anywhere near 3X the TV money they're trying to get, it's a huge influx of revenues but the most salaries can increase per year is like 10%. Again, how does that benefit the players? It doesn't and it's going to lead to more big inequality in salaries between the super Max players and the rest.
The NFL can have a lot of starters on rookie contracts. The NBA can't always have that. Sure high lottery picks will always get playing time from their rookie season onwards. But good players will command big salaries and pretty soon teams are facing punitive luxury taxes and other penalties.
So you will never get NFL style parity nor engaged fan base outside of maybe 20-25 teams during the season.
xdrta+ wrote:wco81 wrote:That might be great for parity and preventing dynasties. It's also great for owners as it keeps overall salaries down. What is baffling is why the players went along with it, including cap smoothing to prevent cap spikes, despite any big increases in revenues.
That's not how it works. The players are still guaranteed about 50% of revenues. That doesn't change no matter how much the revenue increases.For instance if the NBA gets anywhere near 3X the TV money they're trying to get, it's a huge influx of revenues but the most salaries can increase per year is like 10%. Again, how does that benefit the players? It doesn't and it's going to lead to more big inequality in salaries between the super Max players and the rest.
The most maximum salaries can increase is 10%. There is no restriction on other salaries, which is, of course, the great majority of the league. Since the owners have to spend about 50% of this increased revenue it will lead to more equality in salaries.The NFL can have a lot of starters on rookie contracts. The NBA can't always have that. Sure high lottery picks will always get playing time from their rookie season onwards. But good players will command big salaries and pretty soon teams are facing punitive luxury taxes and other penalties.
It sounds like you would do away with luxury taxes and other restrictions such as the Aprons. And do away with any attempt at parity. Is that what you're arguing for?So you will never get NFL style parity nor engaged fan base outside of maybe 20-25 teams during the season.
20-25 teams out of 30 sounds like a lot of engaged fan bases. It kind of sounds like parity.
xdrta+ wrote:Of the top ten highest spending teams, only two have advanced to the 2nd round. (Clippers still might.)
CDM_Stats wrote:xdrta+ wrote:Of the top ten highest spending teams, only two have advanced to the 2nd round. (Clippers still might.)
And then there were 2
DevinVassell wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:xdrta+ wrote:Of the top ten highest spending teams, only two have advanced to the 2nd round. (Clippers still might.)
And then there were 2
That's actually awesome. Love seeing all the higher spenders crash and burn.
vvoland wrote:xdrta+ wrote:wco81 wrote:That might be great for parity and preventing dynasties. It's also great for owners as it keeps overall salaries down. What is baffling is why the players went along with it, including cap smoothing to prevent cap spikes, despite any big increases in revenues.
That's not how it works. The players are still guaranteed about 50% of revenues. That doesn't change no matter how much the revenue increases.For instance if the NBA gets anywhere near 3X the TV money they're trying to get, it's a huge influx of revenues but the most salaries can increase per year is like 10%. Again, how does that benefit the players? It doesn't and it's going to lead to more big inequality in salaries between the super Max players and the rest.
The most maximum salaries can increase is 10%. There is no restriction on other salaries, which is, of course, the great majority of the league. Since the owners have to spend about 50% of this increased revenue it will lead to more equality in salaries.The NFL can have a lot of starters on rookie contracts. The NBA can't always have that. Sure high lottery picks will always get playing time from their rookie season onwards. But good players will command big salaries and pretty soon teams are facing punitive luxury taxes and other penalties.
It sounds like you would do away with luxury taxes and other restrictions such as the Aprons. And do away with any attempt at parity. Is that what you're arguing for?So you will never get NFL style parity nor engaged fan base outside of maybe 20-25 teams during the season.
20-25 teams out of 30 sounds like a lot of engaged fan bases. It kind of sounds like parity.
I think this parity/NFL conversation is missing the forest for the trees. The reason the NFL is king isn't "parity" or anything else other than... they play 17 times all season. It's appointment viewing: it's every Sunday at 10am or 1pm and that's all you get until next year. Sure, there may be a Thu or Mon night thrown in at some point, but people know that weeks in advance and it doesn't change how big each game is and how predictable the viewing slots are. There's just no catching up to that unless the NBA goes to a 40 game schedule and a single elimination playoff format.
Now he's China level player maybe Puerto Rico level if he's not improvingcdubbz wrote:Imagine if Wiseman was the player that Ant man has become.
wco81 wrote:Anyone watching the post-game presser with this Wolves assist coach because Finch is injured?
He's spilling EVERYTHING. Talking about their strategies for Jokic and Murray, talking about "points of emphasis."
And he's sitting out there a long time too. I think this guy gets a little limelight and he's getting carried away.
I guess he's auditioning for future HC jobs.
Onus wrote:Damn these wolves look amazing on defense. Just so much length and athleticism on the perimeter.
CDM_Stats wrote:Onus wrote:Damn these wolves look amazing on defense. Just so much length and athleticism on the perimeter.
Nuggets struggle with consistent ball-pressure, Wolves are excellent at it
Nuggets struggle with athletic guards... Wolves have Ant
I think the West plays out like I said earlier, because the other "great" team that has serious weaknesses? Dallas
Out East, Knicks were gifted a game 1 win at home on some sketchy calls, but thats going to be a good series. Both teams are better than people think they are. Brunson/NYK are the Ant/MIN of the East, and I really undersold what Brunson is. He's a legit #1.. I know people are prepping for Boston to come out of the East, but with the way they match up against NYK/IND, I really think whoever wins that series is going to rep the East. Especially if the Cavs put up a solid fight against Boston.. not betting on that though. It took some straight up heroism from Mitchell just to clear the Magic