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JennetteMcCurdy wrote:I’d send Miami a second rounder for Duncan Robinson - two years left on his deal - becomes more tradeable as time goes by. I wouldn’t trade Ivey for him though - there should be free agents comparable to DR out there…..

I think Jovic would be a good add as well, so it’s not just Ivey for DR. And SG seems to be an easier position to replace.

But I’m guessing these are the type of trades that will be available to us.

theBigLip wrote:

JennetteMcCurdy wrote:I’d send Miami a second rounder for Duncan Robinson - two years left on his deal - becomes more tradeable as time goes by. I wouldn’t trade Ivey for him though - there should be free agents comparable to DR out there…..

I think Jovic would be a good add as well, so it’s not just Ivey for DR. And SG seems to be an easier position to replace.

But I’m guessing these are the type of trades that will be available to us.

I hear you - I just don’t think Miami’s looking to move Jovic. Improving player on a rookie contract - Miami needs him at that price.

JennetteMcCurdy wrote:

theBigLip wrote:

JennetteMcCurdy wrote:I’d send Miami a second rounder for Duncan Robinson - two years left on his deal - becomes more tradeable as time goes by. I wouldn’t trade Ivey for him though - there should be free agents comparable to DR out there…..

I think Jovic would be a good add as well, so it’s not just Ivey for DR. And SG seems to be an easier position to replace.

But I’m guessing these are the type of trades that will be available to us.

I hear you - I just don’t think Miami’s looking to move Jovic. Improving player on a rookie contract - Miami needs him at that price.

The Heat really know what they are doing when it comes to role players.

If they were willing to throw Jovic into a deal I’d see it as a red flag at this point to be honest.

One thing I know for absolute certain is that many times I've heard "it'll never happen" "Makes no sense" "Don't have the assets" "its not enough"

And then it happens. "OKC has a ton of picks".

Yeah, a ton of mid picks. Pistons land that #1 pick, even in a perceived weak draft, its gonna have a ton of value.

Booker can easily end up in Detroit, its all about the willingness of the owner to makes changes out there, not other teams assets. Its gotta be the #1 pick though.

Anything else and all hope is lost.

Realistically I can see us with Brandon Ingram or Tyler Hero. Probably have to offer a 1st and Duren or Ivey.

zeebneeb wrote:One thing I know for absolute certain is that many times I've heard "it'll never happen" "Makes no sense" "Don't have the assets" "its not enough"

And then it happens. "OKC has a ton of picks".

Yeah, a ton of mid picks. Pistons land that #1 pick, even in a perceived weak draft, its gonna have a ton of value.

Booker can easily end up in Detroit, its all about the willingness of the owner to makes changes out there, not other teams assets. Its gotta be the #1 pick though.

Anything else and all hope is lost.

Remember when McCoskey offered his entire roster to the Lakers for Magic Johnson? I would keep Cade, but offer the rest of the roster for Booker.

How about

Duren
Ivey
Thompson
Stewart
Sasser

for Booker?

Pistons have tons of space to add bodies.

Both teams would be awesome to watch next season.

To the trade board!

JennetteMcCurdy wrote:

zeebneeb wrote:One thing I know for absolute certain is that many times I've heard "it'll never happen" "Makes no sense" "Don't have the assets" "its not enough"

And then it happens. "OKC has a ton of picks".

Yeah, a ton of mid picks. Pistons land that #1 pick, even in a perceived weak draft, its gonna have a ton of value.

Booker can easily end up in Detroit, its all about the willingness of the owner to makes changes out there, not other teams assets. Its gotta be the #1 pick though.

Anything else and all hope is lost.

Remember when McCoskey offered his entire roster to the Lakers for Magic Johnson? I would keep Cade, but offer the rest of the roster for Booker.

How about

Duren
Ivey
Thompson
Stewart
Sasser

for Booker?

Pistons have tons of space to add bodies.

Both teams would be awesome to watch next season.

To the trade board!

I am of the mind that a 14 win team, with a great piece, does what it can to build around that piece, not this "pick anyone who doesn't fit with Cade" absurdity.

I am down to trade the whole team save for Cade, for Booker, and fill it out in free agency.

zeebneeb wrote:

JennetteMcCurdy wrote:

zeebneeb wrote:One thing I know for absolute certain is that many times I've heard "it'll never happen" "Makes no sense" "Don't have the assets" "its not enough"

And then it happens. "OKC has a ton of picks".

Yeah, a ton of mid picks. Pistons land that #1 pick, even in a perceived weak draft, its gonna have a ton of value.

Booker can easily end up in Detroit, its all about the willingness of the owner to makes changes out there, not other teams assets. Its gotta be the #1 pick though.

Anything else and all hope is lost.

Remember when McCoskey offered his entire roster to the Lakers for Magic Johnson? I would keep Cade, but offer the rest of the roster for Booker.

How about

Duren
Ivey
Thompson
Stewart
Sasser

for Booker?

Pistons have tons of space to add bodies.

Both teams would be awesome to watch next season.

To the trade board!

I am of the mind that a 14 win team, with a great piece, does what it can to build around that piece, not this "pick anyone who doesn't fit with Cade" absurdity.

I am down to trade the whole team save for Cade, for Booker, and fill it out in free agency.

I threw in the first round pick on the trade board since I can’t watch Weaver pick another player who can’t shoot

Nassir Little, David Roddy and 22nd Overall for Quentin Grimes and Marcus Sasser?

Pels swept, Suns swept, Lakers done in 5... I feel like the Lakers are going to try to make a move for a Trae Young, Mitchell, etc ... they may end up having to settle on a move for LaVine but there's likely no chance they come back next year with Reaves as their 3rd best player again.

bstein14 wrote:Pels swept, Suns swept, Lakers done in 5... I feel like the Lakers are going to try to make a move for a Trae Young, Mitchell, etc ... they may end up having to settle on a move for LaVine but there's likely no chance they come back next year with Reaves as their 3rd best player again.

The side benefit of these desperate teams is maybe one saves us from taking on Lavine ourselves lol

BDM22 wrote:

bstein14 wrote:Pels swept, Suns swept, Lakers done in 5... I feel like the Lakers are going to try to make a move for a Trae Young, Mitchell, etc ... they may end up having to settle on a move for LaVine but there's likely no chance they come back next year with Reaves as their 3rd best player again.

The side benefit of these desperate teams is maybe one saves us from taking on Lavine ourselves lol

Absolutely!

Lavine, Trae, Beal we need to stay away from period. And any contract over $30M per needs to be examined really closely before we take that risk. Of the few things that are ok for the Pistons is the cap room. Let’s not blow it just because we have it.

Here is a trade you need to think long and hard about:

Booker for Cade

Would you do it?

Suns are going to be in luxury tax HELL and probably need to shed weight, Cade can play point guard and you still have Durant and Beal.

Booker is probably one of the few prime NBA stars willing to come to Detroit.

Pandev wrote:Here is a trade you need to think long and hard about:

Booker for Cade

Would you do it?

Suns are going to be in luxury tax HELL and probably need to shed weight, Cade can play point guard and you still have Durant and Beal.

Booker is probably one of the few prime NBA stars willing to come to Detroit.

Agree on the Suns predicament. They are stuck w Beal - they don’t even have the assets to attach to dump him.

So you either run it back and add a few vet min players, or trade KD and/or Booker. Booker is younger and on a longer contract, so I expect it to be KD.

And if it’s KD, I would expect OKC to beat us in any trade package, although we could certainly use him.

Looks like the Bucks are going to flame out in the first round tonight. I wonder if there might be an opportunity to get Bobby Portis. He’s got 2 seasons after this at about $13M per. I think he’d be a perfect fit at PF with his edge and 3p shooting.

GreekAlex wrote:Looks like the Bucks are going to flame out in the first round tonight. I wonder if there might be an opportunity to get Bobby Portis. He’s got 2 seasons after this at about $13M per. I think he’d be a perfect fit at PF with his edge and 3p shooting.

Decent chance the Bucks make some moves. Tough break with Giannis being out, but that roster still had some issues. They are too old and too injury prone with Dame, Lopez, Khris, etc. They need an infusion.

I have no clue what we'd have that the Bucks would want for Portis though.

Cowology wrote:

GreekAlex wrote:Looks like the Bucks are going to flame out in the first round tonight. I wonder if there might be an opportunity to get Bobby Portis. He’s got 2 seasons after this at about $13M per. I think he’d be a perfect fit at PF with his edge and 3p shooting.

Decent chance the Bucks make some moves. Tough break with Giannis being out, but that roster still had some issues. They are too old and too injury prone with Dame, Lopez, Khris, etc. They need an infusion.

I have no clue what we'd have that the Bucks would want for Portis though.

I totally agree about it being a tough break with the Giannis injury and not knowing what to offer the Bucks in a deal for Portis.

What are the odds Middleton is healthy and preforming at a high level and Giannis is the one that’s not available.

I think that is too risky for the Bucks to simply try to “run it back”. My hope is that when shuffling the deck, they need to move Portis’ salary to a team that may not want him and the Pistons can swoop in and capitalize.

To be honest I don’t see what reason a contender looking to remain a contender would have to make any deal of significance with us.

We have nothing to offer a win now team.

Pandev wrote:Here is a trade you need to think long and hard about:

Booker for Cade

Would you do it?

Suns are going to be in luxury tax HELL and probably need to shed weight, Cade can play point guard and you still have Durant and Beal.

Booker is probably one of the few prime NBA stars willing to come to Detroit.

No. I like Booker but he only makes sense here if we can add him to Cade, imo.

Snakebites wrote:To be honest I don’t see what reason a contender looking to remain a contender would have to make any deal of significance with us.

We have nothing to offer a win now team.

I think that you’re oversimplifying the transactions that occur in the offseason.

As the luxury tax implications have increased ramifications, teams that want to contend but got bounced in the first round will have serious decisions to consider.

How would you like to be the owner of a team that’s over the second apron and you didn’t even win one playoff game much less a playoff series?

I think in the course of teams reconfiguring their rosters, our massive cap space may finally have value.

I could be wrong but I like our chances this offseason.