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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#181 » by WuTang_OG » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:37 pm

Monoah finished
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#182 » by Ranger One » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:03 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Monoah finished


Good. He can chuckle it up with Vogelbach in the dugout as though he's an important and integral part of this team. This entire franchise has become an embarrassment and laughing stock in the league. Zero accountability for anyone in this organization from top to bottom. Where mediocrity is rewarded and performance is punished. God it sucks being a Toronto sports fan. Between this clown show we're watching here, the eternal joke that is the Leafs, and the newly rebuilding Raptors, there is literally nothing fun or entertaining or even hopeful to look forward to. Maybe I should take up curling, or Golf.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#183 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:07 pm

Night/day game would have been a good chance to sit Vlad once (in either game)
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#184 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:11 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:He’s a 125 career wRC+ against RHP and a 35 career wRC+ against LHP. I can only presume the manager had no idea of that given his usage in last night’s game.

I tend to agree that you can’t have him on the roster any longer if the team is either too stupid or too unserious to make use of him properly though. Unfortunately we’re miles away from the common sense Gibbons days of managing.


I'm not sure there is a great role for Vogelbach even if well managed.

Generally, there are not that many hitters you want him to PH for unless he is the tying or go ahead run.

I'd rather bring in somebody like Horwitz who has more positional versatility and is not as slow.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#185 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:17 pm

Some guy on my fantasy league (10 team league) waived Cole Ragans last weekend - he streamed him out to bring in Luis Gil to claim the K category. Early candidate for dumbest fantasy league play of the year.

He got snarly at me when I questioned the logic of the move on the message board.

Unfortunately I didn't have the waiver priority to pick him up.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#186 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:18 pm

JN wrote:Some guy on my fantasy league (10 team league) waived Cole Ragans last weekend - he streamed him out to bring inla Luis Gil on Sunday to claim his K category.

He got snarly at me when I questioned the logic of the move on the message board.

Sounds like he doesn’t have any clue who Cole Ragans is then.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#187 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:20 pm

JN wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:He’s a 125 career wRC+ against RHP and a 35 career wRC+ against LHP. I can only presume the manager had no idea of that given his usage in last night’s game.

I tend to agree that you can’t have him on the roster any longer if the team is either too stupid or too unserious to make use of him properly though. Unfortunately we’re miles away from the common sense Gibbons days of managing.


I'm not sure there is a great role for Vogelbach even if well managed.

Generally, there are not that many hitters you want him to PH for unless he is the tying or go ahead run.

I'd rather bring in somebody like Horwitz who has more positional versatility and is not as slow.

Sure there is. He’d have been a great pinch hit option to use with the team down 1 run in the late innings on Tuesday against some very tough RHPs.

The problem is we have a manager who used/uses IKF in those spots.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#188 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:28 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
JN wrote:Some guy on my fantasy league (10 team league) waived Cole Ragans last weekend - he streamed him out to bring inla Luis Gil on Sunday to claim his K category.

He got snarly at me when I questioned the logic of the move on the message board.

Sounds like he doesn’t have any clue who Cole Ragans is then.


He should have also looked at Cole's next start being against the Jays - a gimme quality start.

I don't know what the heck he was thinking. Seemed like he totally overreacted to the whooping Ragans took against Baltimore in his last start.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#189 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:30 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
JN wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:He’s a 125 career wRC+ against RHP and a 35 career wRC+ against LHP. I can only presume the manager had no idea of that given his usage in last night’s game.

I tend to agree that you can’t have him on the roster any longer if the team is either too stupid or too unserious to make use of him properly though. Unfortunately we’re miles away from the common sense Gibbons days of managing.


I'm not sure there is a great role for Vogelbach even if well managed.

Generally, there are not that many hitters you want him to PH for unless he is the tying or go ahead run.

I'd rather bring in somebody like Horwitz who has more positional versatility and is not as slow.

Sure there is. He’d have been a great pinch hit option to use with the team down 1 run in the late innings on Tuesday against some very tough RHPs.

The problem is we have a manager who used/uses IKF in those spots.


Read my post again regarding his usage - I agree those are the spots he is valuable in.
I just don't know if there is enough of them.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#190 » by Madvillainy2004 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:33 pm

IKF slugging higher than Springer/Bo/Vlad lmao
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#191 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:36 pm

Lightning in the sky - I can see a delay coming.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#192 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:43 pm

So disappointing to see Manoah - team could have really used him just being a competent #3-4 pitcher type moving forward, given that he has plenty of cost control, and we don't have that (cost control) with starters in our organization right now.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#193 » by hst420 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:44 pm

It's been the story the last couple seasons.. can not hit the fast ball = no slug
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#194 » by Ranger One » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:47 pm

Hopefully this goes at least 5 so they can record this loss early and go home to get swept by the Dodgers. Certainly looks like Guerrero is in a hurry to get home.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#195 » by Ranger One » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:00 pm

Bo has 1 hit in 4 games this series. Isn't he the guy who went on air in the offseason talking about accountability for himself and the team? As well as needing to "stop talking and getting it done"? Whatever happened with that I wonder?
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#196 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:11 pm

Kirk is so useless, that best way to try to get runner in from 3rd is trying to get in a rundown play.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#197 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:23 pm

Once Vladdy grounds out to end the top of 5, there will be a rain delay called.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#198 » by Randle McMurphy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:27 pm

They’ll call this game now, which is what I assume most of the team wanted given their ridiculous ABs all day
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#199 » by JN » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:29 pm

I'm surprised it wasn't delayed immediately after the top of the 5th.

IKF could had a triple last inning to start the inning. That was a big play for KC.
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Re: GT - Blue Jays 12-10 at KC 13-9 (April 22-24) 

Post#200 » by WuTang_OG » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:41 pm

eric musselman turned umpire

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