Main Event wrote:When your only skills is jumping, I guess it's hard to argue nobody in the league actually has more room to grow.
Yeah, except according to the OP Thorpe explicitly said that Tyrus has far more skills than people realize. These are the skills of blocking, generating steals, dribbling, passing, getting to the line, and rebounding that I recite a few times a week and Tyrus' detractors either ignore or weakly refute.
HoopsGuru25 wrote:Why are people co-signing this guy? You could say the same thing for alot of other young players in the NBA. What does Tyrus have that gives him more upside than guys with similar athleticism like Andray Blatche, Amir Johnson, Josh Smith,Thad Young,Sean Williams,etc...let alone elite level athletes with good skills and fundamentals like Rudy Gay.
As Ben pointed out, if you say someone like Gay or Smith who's already very good has huge upside you're saying he's capable of being one of the best of all time and that's a bit over the top.
Young, Williams, and Blatche are a poor man's Tyrus. They didn't have the athletic ability and/or college success to be drafted as high as Tyrus was.
lu9 wrote:Why don't we look at the facts here.. TT is NOT playing on one of the worst teams in the entire league. PERIOD.
Implying that Tyrus would be playing similar minutes on a team like the T-Wolves, Grizzlies, Sonics, or pretty much any sub .500 team is either highly dishonest or highly ignorant. Some contending teams like Phoenix would play Tyrus 20+ minutes a game.
lu9 wrote:Do all you Tyrus supporters have secret press passes and get to see practices?? How do you all know this?
This is a really odd statement because if anyone is assuming facts not in evidence, it's you. Everyone else is reflecting that a player who's a very high draft pick and holds his own in games plays substantial minutes so the team can develop him. Tyrus' development has not been the norm, so if you're defending it, you're assuming there's some good reason we don't know about that he's not playing more.
lu9 wrote:What I see is a player that has a piss poor attitude, a bad work ethic
Again, you're assuming things that contradict the facts available to us. For instance, if you read the initial post, Thorpe says he talked to Tyrus' teammates and he has no attitude problems whatsoever. As far as the work ethic issue, he apparently spent the offseason working on his jumper and hitting the weight room. The overwhelming majority of the facts contradict your opinion so I'm not sure what your opinion is based on.
lu9 wrote:and absolutely atrocious basketball sense. He has ZERO balance. Can't jump off of one foot. Can't dribble quickly in control.
I watch the games, other posters watch the games, Thorpe is a professional scout, so while you're entitled with your own scouting opinions, there's very little support for them. You're more or less a member of the Flat Earth Society here or at least a global warming denialist.
lu9 wrote:how about catching the ball when a perfect ally-oop is fed to you (see Sunday's debacle of a matinee)?
So in other words you're basing your observation on one game? Have you seen Tyrus play in more than one game? Because basically what you're saying here is that an inability to convert alley oops is something that will keep Tyrus from being a good NBA player and that's beyond laughable.
HoopsGuru25 wrote:Undersized PF's
Since when is 6'9 undersized for a PF? That's not even taking into account the fact that he plays bigger than your average 6'9 player because of his long arms and jumping ability. If Ben Wallace can make multiple All-Star Games as a 6'7 center, I'm pretty sure Tyrus' size isn't going to hinder his career in any ways.
HoopsGuru25 wrote:w/o jumpshot have limited ceilings.
So NBA players aren't capable of improving their jump shot from the age of 21 forwards? I think there are quite a few players in NBA history who would beg to differ with you. There are also more than a few players with a bad to mediocre jumper who had a lot of NBA success.
HoopsGuru25 wrote:Thorpe is probably only saying this so he probably won't look like an idiot for proclaiming that Thomas was the best player in the 2006 draft(did he?). Just a guess.
Nope, not that I can recall.