Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time

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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-way-too-early-2025-nfl-mock-draft-james-pearce-jr-panthers

2025 Mock has us taking an EDGE at our projected #19 pick.......Jack Sawyer of Ohio State. Some really good interior Defensive linemen will be available, but the elite ones will be gone unless we move up. Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant of Michigan. Deone Walker of Kentucky. Howard Cross III of Notre Dame. Defense will be top heavy next year. This was the year to get a QB. Next Year Carson Beck, Shadeur Sanders and Quinn Ewers top the QB class. I'm not sold on any of them to be honest.

Not thrilled about the overrated ends at The OSU

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2025 Mock has us taking an EDGE at our projected #19 pick.......Jack Sawyer of Ohio State. Some really good interior Defensive linemen will be available, but the elite ones will be gone unless we move up. Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant of Michigan. Deone Walker of Kentucky. Howard Cross III of Notre Dame. Defense will be top heavy next year. This was the year to get a QB. Next Year Carson Beck, Shadeur Sanders and Quinn Ewers top the QB class. I'm not sold on any of them to be honest.

Not thrilled about the overrated ends at The OSU

I think Sawyer is going to be really good. If we could get him with our First Rounder, then get a Center with our first pick in the 2nd round, someone like Bryce Foster of Texas A&M or Eli Cox of Kentucky, then we can go BPA with all the remaining picks. Bolster our depth.

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Rich mentioned on his show that the NFL told him to clear his schedule for a specific day either this week or next week (I forgot when) and he thinks its for the schedule announcement

I can’t remember which the Bears suck at more, MNF or SNF.

To paraphrase Poles, that's history, in the past and am tired of addressing it.

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https://www.pff.com/news/draft-way-too-early-2025-nfl-mock-draft-james-pearce-jr-panthers

2025 Mock has us taking an EDGE at our projected #19 pick.......Jack Sawyer of Ohio State. Some really good interior Defensive linemen will be available, but the elite ones will be gone unless we move up. Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant of Michigan. Deone Walker of Kentucky. Howard Cross III of Notre Dame. Defense will be top heavy next year. This was the year to get a QB. Next Year Carson Beck, Shadeur Sanders and Quinn Ewers top the QB class. I'm not sold on any of them to be honest.

That's a fairly useless mock, since the Bears will be picking at 32.

[1985Bear]

A few things - we don't actually know why the scouts were let go and I don't think it's accurate to say that scouts' jobs are based primarily on late round draft performance.

In 2022, the Bears hit on an OT in the 5th round. It appears Terrell Smith, while not a starter due to the Bears strength at the position, may also be a quality CB, drafted in the 5th in 2023. So, I'm not sure I'd agree with the notion that the Bears have been striking out in later rounds. Given the combined hit rate in rounds 5-7 is about 29%, having hit on at least two players seems to mean the Bears are performing well in that regard.

It all depends on who we passed on, and who was being vouched for over whom..

But I will tell you scouts are heavily evaluated by their information on players in the later round. That’s a known fact. Maybe you’re not aware, but if you have anyone in the know they’ll tell you this. Regardless of what the percentage is of success in those rounds, you’re hired and brought in to increase that teams success rate period.

Braxton was nice but one hit doesn’t secure your job for the next 5 years.

Based on those numbers above, if you hit on one pick with your 5-6-7 rounders every 3 drafts, you're doing ok.

Yep, that’s sound right. It’s why trading a 5th for your starting Center is just fine.


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That bodes really well for our needs in the next off season. This team might be the most stacked its been in 30+ years, and we're only gonna increase that fact in next year's NFL draft.

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2025 Mock has us taking an EDGE at our projected #19 pick.......Jack Sawyer of Ohio State. Some really good interior Defensive linemen will be available, but the elite ones will be gone unless we move up. Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant of Michigan. Deone Walker of Kentucky. Howard Cross III of Notre Dame. Defense will be top heavy next year. This was the year to get a QB. Next Year Carson Beck, Shadeur Sanders and Quinn Ewers top the QB class. I'm not sold on any of them to be honest.

That's a fairly useless mock, since the Bears will be picking at 32.

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Never heard of anything like this, NFL team farming out the training of an offense to a trainer for a quarterback before chosen. Unless it’s happened for other #1s without being reported before. This guy should be getting paid by the Bears.

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DJ: “Anticipation is there. You can tell he is expecting us to be open at a certain time, that’s one of things that’s gonna be better. Just need to be on the same page with him going forward. Just going to take some time. It might be fast, or it might take some time. But I’m hoping it’s fast though”

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Sounds like Caleb’s in good hands. I expect him to be great out of the gate.

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Sounds like Caleb’s in good hands. I expect him to be great out of the gate.

Me too. I expect fireworks both ways. Good and bad.

It just won’t be boring which is what Bears offense has been for 20 years.

[TheJordanRule]

Although I still disagree with Fleet about Ryan Poles’ rating as a GM (which ranks at good to great imo), I must admit that Fleet’s criticism about Poles was, at the very least, on target about Poles’ tendency to overpay for the guys he wants, and undersell the guys he wants to get rid of. Everyone talks about spending a second rounder on Clayfool, but I’d argue that VJJ was a more obscene reach in the 3rd. Fields was essentially just thrown aside for a sixth round draft pick, right after we tanked the kid’s value.

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Fine, but you (collectively) aren’t including some $45-50 million in cap in that victory lap. The vets are not part of the draft. Instead of picking players, you decided to spend a ton of money on good players.

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Never heard of anything like this, NFL team farming out the training of an offense to a trainer for a quarterback before chosen. Unless it’s happened for other #1s without being reported before. This guy should be getting paid by the Bears.

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He is getting taken care of in some way I am sure.

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Never heard of anything like this, NFL team farming out the training of an offense to a trainer for a quarterback before chosen. Unless it’s happened for other #1s without being reported before. This guy should be getting paid by the Bears.

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He is getting taken care of in some way I am sure.

[dougthonus]

Fine, but you (collectively) aren’t including some $45-50 million in cap in that victory lap. The vets are not part of the draft. Instead of picking players, you decided to spend a ton of money on good players.

The Poles hype cycle reminds me a lot of the AKME hype cycle after one year.

That said, I'm incredibly excited about where the Bears are, even if we mostly backed into that position through dumb luck.

[dougthonus]

Never heard of anything like this, NFL team farming out the training of an offense to a trainer for a quarterback before chosen. Unless it’s happened for other #1s without being reported before. This guy should be getting paid by the Bears.

Seems pretty straight forward and logical to me.

1: Caleb has a personal QB coach he works with
- I mean probably every elite prospect is working with specialized personal coaches

2: The QB coach he works with knows our QB coach
- Pretty likely that if you're a good enough personal QB coach for elite prospects that you have tons and tons of NFL contacts for long periods of time. I knew a couple of the NBA private coaches in my media days and they knew everyone in the league, it's part of their job.

3: Given the situation of everyone knowing where Caleb is going 4 months in advance, we already started feeding him information
- Of course, why wouldn't we give them this info if they are interested?

I think this is all great, the earlier Caleb can get a head start the better. Would be awesome if he's had an extra couple months of learning the system with a pro coach while he can't work out with the team, and it's great that he's interested in doing it. It's probably not incredibly common just because teams never know for sure if they will get a guy unless they are picking #1, but otherwise feels like common sense.

[Dresden]

Colin Cowherd with a glowing assessment of the Bears offseason:

"Caleb Williams is significantly more talented, more accurate than Justin Fields. [This is] the first time I can ever remember the Bears having a top 7-8-9-10 offensive personnel group. This is a real team, a real offense. And if you count free agency and your top couple of picks, no NFL team, and it's the right side of the ball, will look more different than the Chicago Bears—one of the best receiver groups in the league, one of the most talented quarterbacks, better-than-average tight end, a running back that can catch, Poles is a former offensive lineman, I like both their tackles. This is the way, this side of the ball. And no team upgraded more than the Chicago Bears if you count free agency and their top couple of picks. That, I can guarantee."