Bears 2024: 5.0 It's Caleb Williams time
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If we somehow traded up and got Powers-Johnson I will dance the jig.
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El Ridda wrote:Can one of the salary cap crunchers on this board let us know what the Bears have left to spend after the draft? Would be excited if we brought in a vet or two on the D Line.
It won't be known exactly until the draft is over because the Bears could make trades away from the current slots, but I read something like ~$10M is expected.
As for EDGE guys, the only 2 in the top 100 free agents still available are Calais Campbell and Emmanuel Ogbah. Assuming Campbell doesn't retire, either could be a one year stopgap/depth piece.
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IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:If we somehow traded up and got Powers-Johnson I will dance the jig.
He did say we may have less picks when it's done.
I'm all for taking those 2025 picks and moving into the 2nd round of this draft
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Charlesareed wrote:TheJordanRule wrote:76thBearCub wrote:Too expensive to trade up in the 2nd round for me. I like those 2 2nds sitting on deck for next year.
Those picks next year are setting up a really bright future, but are any good OT and DE free agents available once the draft ends? After a great 1st round, still feels like we're not gonna be able to address our needs at the O and D lines for another year...
I’m quite sure poles can snag some Olin & Dline players who go undrafted I think they’ll wait it out after there next 2 pick in this draft I can guarantee you they will get some defensive players on this roster by opening day they thought all this out already
On defense. There’s also the fact that they’re young and hard working kids who are going to get better. I don’t think there’s any glaring holes anywhere other than DE. More depth would be nice.
On offense. I think we’re good to go also and not having a spaz like Fields back there is going to make everyone look a lot better, it might take them some time to gel it being a new offense and all. More depth would be nice.
We still have money left and various scenarios to improve it also before the season starts. With 8 picks next year we’re also sitting pretty. Coming off a Super Bowl victory Poles is going to have his choice of studs on both sides of the trenches in next years draft.
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Why do people want JPJ when we signed 2 guys that can start at center?
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Really need edge more than anything, but I’m not sure who will be there at 75. My order of who to draft.
Chris Braswell
Marshawn Kneeland
Adisa Isaac
Ruke Orhorhoro
Jonah Ellis
Austin Booker
But there is a chance all those guys are gone by 75.
Chris Braswell
Marshawn Kneeland
Adisa Isaac
Ruke Orhorhoro
Jonah Ellis
Austin Booker
But there is a chance all those guys are gone by 75.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why do people want JPJ when we signed 2 guys that can start at center?
Because he's better than those guys.
Those guys are good depth and I like Bates to replace Davis personally.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why do people want JPJ when we signed 2 guys that can start at center?
BPA and a long term solution to the position.
2 guys can also play guard improving depth.
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IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:If we somehow traded up and got Powers-Johnson I will dance the jig.
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Poles presser that a lot of these tweet quotes are coming from....Talks about Odunze at ~5min mark and it seems apparent that Poles luvs the man and the player
TGibson (1/28/17); "..."a 4 or 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 for drama"...What's the worst? "...yelling matches with Thibs, everybody is just going crazy and I'm just sitting there...like, 'Don't call my name please..."
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Really need edge more than anything, but I’m not sure who will be there at 75. My order of who to draft.
Chris Braswell
Marshawn Kneeland
Adisa Isaac
Ruke Orhorhoro
Jonah Ellis
Austin Booker
But there is a chance all those guys are gone by 75.
I'm not against getting an edge although they might look at DT instead.
I would complete the task of putting Caleb in the best position and beef up that interior OL. Also many many times Fields had some time in the pocket taken away because of bad snaps would take his eyes from downfield.
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IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why do people want JPJ when we signed 2 guys that can start at center?
Because he's better than those guys.
Those guys are good depth and I like Bates to replace Davis personally.
No chance I want a rookie center calling out reads for Caleb.
I guess if you think he’s talented enough sit for a bit. Much larger needs elsewhere to me.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why do people want JPJ when we signed 2 guys that can start at center?
Because he's better than those guys.
Those guys are good depth and I like Bates to replace Davis personally.
No chance I want a rookie center calling out reads for Caleb.
I guess if you think he’s talented enough sit for a bit. Much larger needs elsewhere to me.
A lot higher chance a rookie center will excel than a rookie at say a skill position. A lot. But its fine, I'm not trying to talk you into wanting him. We probably have no chance anyways.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Why do people want JPJ when we signed 2 guys that can start at center?
Because he's better than those guys.
Those guys are good depth and I like Bates to replace Davis personally.
No chance I want a rookie center calling out reads for Caleb.
I guess if you think he’s talented enough sit for a bit. Much larger needs elsewhere to me.
Larger needs maybe but I wouldn’t reach for those if C is different tier above them.
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IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:If we somehow traded up and got Powers-Johnson I will dance the jig.
I was just thinking that if he drops far enough, I could definitely possible to trade this years and next years thirds to go get him. Idk if poles is even looking for another interior OL but JCJ could be our best, day one
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patryk7754 wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:If we somehow traded up and got Powers-Johnson I will dance the jig.
I was just thinking that if he drops far enough, I could definitely possible to trade this years and next years thirds to go get him. Idk if poles is even looking for another interior OL but JCJ could be our best, day one
Probably be the first player off the board today
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IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
Because he's better than those guys.
Those guys are good depth and I like Bates to replace Davis personally.
No chance I want a rookie center calling out reads for Caleb.
I guess if you think he’s talented enough sit for a bit. Much larger needs elsewhere to me.
A lot higher chance a rookie center will excel than a rookie at say a skill position. A lot. But its fine, I'm not trying to talk you into wanting him. We probably have no chance anyways.
Really? What’s that based off of? Can’t remember a rookie center getting significant praise. JMS was thrown into the fire in NY last year and it went terribly.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
No chance I want a rookie center calling out reads for Caleb.
I guess if you think he’s talented enough sit for a bit. Much larger needs elsewhere to me.
A lot higher chance a rookie center will excel than a rookie at say a skill position. A lot. But its fine, I'm not trying to talk you into wanting him. We probably have no chance anyways.
Really? What’s that based off of? Can’t remember a rookie center getting significant praise. JMS was thrown into the fire in NY last year and it went terribly.
I dunno, just years of watching.
Just a quick google search, and I know this is specific to first round but it still seems relevant.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2024/04/25/2024-nfl-draft-history-position-hit-rate/73445148007/
*perhaps this trays from the "excels at a higher chance than a rookie at a skill position". Let just say its my personal opinion to be ok with a rookie C and I just want our next Olin is all. It was our biggest weakness on the OL IMO.
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IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
A lot higher chance a rookie center will excel than a rookie at say a skill position. A lot. But its fine, I'm not trying to talk you into wanting him. We probably have no chance anyways.
Really? What’s that based off of? Can’t remember a rookie center getting significant praise. JMS was thrown into the fire in NY last year and it went terribly.
I dunno, just years of watching.
Just a quick google search, and I know this is specific to first round but it still seems relevant.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2024/04/25/2024-nfl-draft-history-position-hit-rate/73445148007/
That’s dedication, tracking rookie centers around the league by watching over the years. I don’t have that level of fandom.
I couldn’t find a detailed chart, but a list of rookie pro bowlers over the years doesn’t bode well for centers.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/rookies-selected-to-a-pro-bowl
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